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re: What must it be like to grow up surrounded by a wind farm in the Midwest?

Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15049 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:09 pm to
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Affect on people’s mental health who are living around and under these things?

Go talk to people who live on wind farms. They don’t care. My place is in the middle of one of the largest wind farms in west Texas, me, nor any of my neighbors give a shite or suffer any consequences. Unless you think providing a steady income stream that supports a way of life that’s existed on this land for 5 generations bad. Which you probably do because you want to be able to drive by MY property and see untouched land. But thankfully, you don’t have that control and never will, so you can drive somewhere else if it bothers you.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:18 pm to
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I don’t agree with this... bro

Birds were just one factor that I mentioned. And I stand by my concern for their mortality. Just because someone can show higher losses from other factors doesn’t absolve wind power of its culpability in that regard.
Simple minds will take a number out of context and make a big number look small or a small number look big. If they're in your back yard, 250k is a shitload of birds. Relative to the number of birds that die flying into windows, it's basically zero birds. And you completely ignore the number of birds (and other animals, including humans) that were spared due to having to burn less coal and gas. It's possible that wind turbines are more bird-friendly than a natural gas plant of equivalent output. Would you even entertain that notion? Probably not, because "bird killers" have already caught on as an anti-wind talking point. As already pointed out, the per-turbine average is about 5 birds per year. I'd bet that many kill themselves against an average low-rise apartment complex.
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Carbon footprint of these spinning eyesores?
Per kWh vs coal/gas? Basically zero.
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10504 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:40 pm to
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I have wondered how they get the hundreds of lights to all blink at the same time.


I was one of the guys that worked the switch that blinked the lights off, then on, then off again for six hours. That was a good, but kinda redundant job. Lost it to the robots.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38533 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Carbon footprint of these spinning eyesores?
Affect on people’s mental health who are living around and under these things? BTW, do you want to live very close them? I’m guessing that you are NIMBY.
Waste stream at end of life?


It's just weird as hell that you are so ate up with this considering they reduce generation needed from sources that produce the things you are complaining about on a MUCH MUCH larger scale.

You are basically taking the position that if something isn't 100% perfect with zero negative side effects, it's bad and should be banned.

You are like the people who say we should wear masks and social distance and shite until there is 0 cases of covid worldwide.

I just don't understand why you are so worried about "the environment" regarding certain new and developing technologies but obviously couldn't give less of a shite about the environment when it comes to legacy power sources. You come off disingenuous as frick in all of your threads regarding "green" stuff. You post your complaints about EVs about once a month. Your points get blown to shite immediately and then you post the exact same thread the next month with the same complaints that you KNOW have been addressed. But you ignore that. Probably because you don't actually give two fricks about what you are complaining about. You just don't like these things because they are "liberal"

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15049 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:45 pm to
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Lost it to the robots

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15049 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:48 pm to
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You just don't like these things because they are "liberal"

That commie wants to dissolve peoples ability to develop on their own land because it hurts his feels. Peak snowflake. I’ll put a trigger warning out on the highway tomorrow.
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:37 am to
I used to work for a guy who was the PM on Fire Island. Talk about a wild project site
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