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re: What makes Atlanta a major city / historically / geographically

Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:39 am to
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:39 am to
Lots of good answers here. I think it was a combination of things through the years. Lots of places have a major event that causes growth but then they don't keep it up. Atlanta has had a series of events.

One thing about Delta. I've also read Atlanta recruited the company while Birmingham was less welcoming and had the fuel tax, but I've also read Delta preferred Atlanta because of Atlanta's location in the eastern time zone. Central time in Birmingham was more difficult to coordinate
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Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:47 am to
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It’s not the 1990’s anymore. Black population of the city is dying by the year. Huge demographic shift last 20 years.



The demographic shift is more about non-blacks moving back into Atlanta proper in large numbers than it is about anyone "dying" or leaving, and getting hung up on the City of Atlanta vs. Metro Atlanta is silly regardless. I've read that Dekalb County is the most affluent majority black county in the US... not sure if that's 100% up-to-date information, but it definitely says something.

New Orleans is where I was born. I picked Atlanta, though. Certain things have changed since I moved here, and basically nowhere is the same as it was during the golden age we experienced from 1988-2001, but I still love living here.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by Islandboy777
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:17 am to
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Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 10:34 am to
The railways map you posted highlights it loud in clear. In the 1860’s map you can see Atlanta is the southern route around the Appalachians.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2311 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:00 am to
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The one I don't understand is Dallas

started as a river trading post, then the railroads came, then the interstate highway system. Huge center for product distribution in the US.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10887 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:01 am to
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The demographic shift is more about non-blacks moving back into Atlanta proper in large numbers than it is about anyone "dying" or leaving


False.By dying I did not mean literally dying maybe I should have used the word decaying instead? Two things:

The black population in the city of Atlanta is very old. Much older than the white population. These folks are either moving out to the suburbs to be closer to family or going into nursing homes etc.. Where do you think all the black folks who now live in Gwinnett, Cobb, Rockdale, Douglas, and DeKalb came from? I can remember when Gwinnett, Cobb, and Rockdale were 90% white.

There has also been Black flight to the suburbs the last 20 years due to things like rising property taxes and cost of hosing going up in the city at a rapid pace. The trend the last 20 years has been black people fleeing the city and 'white', Asian, and South Asian people moving into the city. By 2030 the city proper is projected to be nearly 72% 'white', Asian, and South Asian. Black people are leaving and have been leaving for over two decades now mostly to the Atlanta suburbs which used to be 'white' but are anything but these days.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5300 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:13 am to
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It’s not the 1990’s anymore. Black population of the city is dying by the year. Huge demographic shift last 20 years.


So…. Why has Fulton county, and Atlanta metro, as a whole gone Blue over the past 20 years? Georgia in 2005 was a hard core Red State. It’s gone Blue now because of the Atlanta metro population shift over the past 20 years.

Liberal white jackasses from the northeast leaving because of liberal politics, only to bring their voting practices with them, to turn their new home into their old home.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10887 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:53 am to
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Why has Fulton county, and Atlanta metro, as a whole gone Blue


I can think of one reason since 2016. Do you think you can guess what it is?
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5300 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:06 pm to
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I can think of one reason since 2016. Do you think you can guess what it is?



Oh! I know the reason. I just enjoy the conversation.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:07 pm to
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Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:09 pm to
Next time you connect at Hartsfield Jackson, walk your fat arse between Concourses B and C to find the answers you seek.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:22 pm to
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started as a river trading post,

A lot of cities first became a thing because of this. I think its called a bulk break point. Basically river commerce went as far inland as possible then because of low water/rocks occur along a fall line. At that point boats had to be unloaded and then goods had to be transported by wagon or train, which in turn by default of geology became a hub of commerce.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11982 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 12:37 pm to
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The business community there supports one another.


Really in a nutshell, it’s decades and decades of business friendly politics coupled with port access to the east. Centralized location on the eastern seaboard helps too. Milder winters etc.
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