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re: What is your opinion on kids using AI to write papers, letters, etc.?

Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:16 am to
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:16 am to
It's a great tool, but I'd never take anything it spits out word for word and use it. Some info is just wrong our outdated.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:16 am to
The more advanced our technology gets, the dumber the general public gets.
Eventually we will all be having AI write emails to the inboxes of other people who will read a summary of your email with AI.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:17 am to
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It feels like yet another overreliance on technology that will result in children being dumber in the long run.
some folks didn’t like the Thesaurus

“Those heathens should know all the words”.

Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25028 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:18 am to
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Big push in education to harness how it's used. We've spent a lot of time trying to find the line between its uses as a tool but also prevent them from just cheating with it too.


I would think it is more important to teach them basic skills that don't rely on AI.

We already see people who are overly dependent on computers. For example, a lot of young workers cannot make correct change without having the cash register do the computation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:18 am to
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seems to take the humanity out of things like letters.


The idea is for kids to think and research. Using AI takes those elements away


At that point, just copy pages of a book and submit. It's worthless.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:20 am to
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The more advanced our technology gets, the dumber the general public gets.


Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54829 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:23 am to
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some folks didn’t like the Thesaurus

“Those heathens should know all the words”.



No one felt that way about the thesaurus.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65975 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:23 am to
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Big push in education to harness how it's used. We've spent a lot of time trying to find the line between its uses as a tool but also prevent them from just cheating with it too.

Question: Who vets the AI?

I've read/heard multiple instances of where "AI" fabricated entire research papers (I'm talking published, scholarly research, not school papers), even inventing authors/researchers that don't exist. When questioned it doubled down, even creating an abstract for the papers, and providing a link to a real, legitimate journal that supposedly published the work. When people started to dig, they found the research project never existed and the listed authors never worked together. Sometimes they were just......fake people.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5262 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:24 am to
Help? Yes.

Write the whole damn thing? No
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:26 am to
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What is your opinion on kids using AI to write papers, letters, etc.?

It's called cheating.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
8465 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:26 am to
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I also did a CEU last year that talked about using it to identify whether a client was suicidal. Basically you would open up the AI program to "listen" during the session and it would potentially pick up cues that could suggest the client was suicidal. Again, I have bigger concerns about the security of doing something like that. And I think the program that was suggested was something like $30,000 a year and it's not near worth that.


That’s scary as frick.

I would imagine that being able to determine if comments that someone makes being an indicator of future suicide is something that only someone with years of experience, an understanding of verbal cues, and an innate past feeling could pick up on. Sometimes people say suicidal things when they feel like they’re safe to blow off steam. Is it good? Probably not, but I’ve done it and I have no intention of killing myself.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58945 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:28 am to
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one felt that way about the thesaurus.
hell yeah. The intellectuals were enraged. Let’s not even talk about Encyclopedias
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19016 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:29 am to
I didn't like it for the ad because at a younger age they do need to learn to writ themselves. But I would have liked it for an older age group (mid-teens) as they will need to learn how to work with AI. It can be a great writing tool, but you also need to learn how to direct it, limit it, and how to properly utilize the results.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19016 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:30 am to
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I’ve heard ai can write a children’s book about changing your gender in less than 30 minutes

Is it taking less than 30 minutes to write the book, for the gender reassignment, or both?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102225 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:31 am to
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It’s sad that they’re teaching kids to computer type when they should be learning to stack dimes

The whole American “computer” experiment has failed and now all the people with fake email jobs are laid off and welders, plumbers, electricians, etc are the only ones making money


This but unironically.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:33 am to
Al who?
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
6456 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:33 am to
Ironically, there is no such thing as "AI"

Machine learning, yes. There is nothing artificial anout AI.

It's a computer program, it has to be programmed to learn and it has to know the answer to the question before it can answer the question. It does not think on it's own.

It's essentially a more precise search engine.

Doom and gloom is over
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:37 am to
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I didn't like this. It feels like yet another overreliance on technology that will result in children being dumber in the long run.


You're looking at it within the confines of the current system, which has become a bad system. To scale the education system we've gone to a one size fits all education, often tailored to the lowest common denominator, that you test via multiple choice so memorization is one of the main focuses.

AI in education should be transformative. It will allow you to keep the scale but add 1 on 1 customization to learning. We can stop teaching facts to be temporarily stored and regurgitated before they dump them to load another batch of facts the following semester. Instead we can focus on what kids should be learning, critical thinking.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
103914 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:38 am to
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That’s scary as frick.

I would imagine that being able to determine if comments that someone makes being an indicator of future suicide is something that only someone with years of experience, an understanding of verbal cues, and an innate past feeling could pick up on. Sometimes people say suicidal things when they feel like they’re safe to blow off steam. Is it good? Probably not, but I’ve done it and I have no intention of killing myself.


It gets really complicated right?

If I'm using it as an accompanying tool (assuming the data is appropriately secured, which is a BIG assumption and an issue in itself) than sure, it could be useful in picking up on cues that sometimes we can miss as humans. But we all know there will absolutely be a therapist or a company that will want to fully rely on the software and that just brings up all kinds of ethical and safety issues.

There's some companies that have talked about utilizing it as a front line of defense when someone calls a crisis line to weed out whether they need to speak to an actual person. To cut costs of paying someone to do that same job. It really is terrifying.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51483 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:42 am to
My daughter's school runs the papers through some sort of software that gives a % confidence that it was AI generated.
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