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What is your opinion of the late Huey P. Long?

Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:23 pm
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:23 pm
I was listening to Randy Newman's "Good Old Boys" album (great album btw), and one of his songs is called "Kingfish" which is about Huey P. Long.
Here are the lyrics:


There's a hundred thousand Frenchmen in New Orleans
In New Orleans there are Frenchmen everywhere
But your house could fall down
Your baby could drown
Wouldn't none of those Frenchmen care


Everybody gather 'round
Loosen up your suspenders
Hunker down on the ground
I'm a cracker
And you are too
But don't I take good care of you


Who built the highway to Baton Rouge?
Who put up the hospital and built you schools?
Who looks after shite-kickers like you?
The Kingfish do


Who gave a party at the Roosevelt Hotel?
And invited the whole north half of the state down there for free
The people in the city
Had their eyes bugging out
Cause everyone of you
Looked just like me


Kingfish, Kingfish
Everybody sing
Kingfish, Kingfish
Every man a king


Who took on the Standard Oil men
And whipped their arse
Just like he promised he'd do?
Ain't no Standard Oil men gonna run this state
Gonna be run by little folks like me and you


Kingfish, Kingfish
Friend of the working man
Kingfish, Kingfish
The Kingfish gonna save this land


What is your opinion on the Kingfish, his politics, and what he did for Louisiana?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:32 pm to
"I prefer the early Huey P Long."

-Donald Trump
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:34 pm to
He dragged Louisiana into the Twentieth Century. He's justly criticized for his excesses, but he wouldn't have come to power without the misrule of the New Orleans Old Regulars and their North Louisiana planter allies.
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:35 pm to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:37 pm to
Really entrenched Louisiana politics in a world of corruption.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159031 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:38 pm to
Why weep or slumber America?
Land of brave and true
With castles and clothing and food for all
All belongs to you

Ev'ry man a king, ev'ry man a king
For you can be a millionaire
But there's something belonging to others
There's enough for all people to share

When it's sunny June and December too
Or in the winter time or spring
There'll be peace without end
Ev'ry neighbor a friend
With ev'ry man a king
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
20251 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:39 pm to
Well I'm sure that the SJW's and the urbanites would call him racist since he was a wealthy white man back then. So I'm sure anything named after him should be changed.

Anyway, I am a fan of the progress he did for BR back then
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Really entrenched Louisiana politics in a world of corruption.


Louisiana politics has been corrupt going back to the colonial era. There's a meme that the Longs hijacked an otherwise well governed state. Louisiana has always been fabulously dysfunctional.

And if you're going to criticize him, it's fair to at least acknowledge what he did for the state and the common citizens. His predecessors did almost literally nothing to develop and modernize Louisiana, and state government existed entirely for the benefit of the oligarchs. Again, he wouldn't have been able to gain and maintain his popularity if those who came before him hadn't been so abjectly bad.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
17025 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:48 pm to
Every man a king.

My fav LA Gov..Did more and built more.



One of my favorite pics of him that I always see at Rasing Canes. Walking in the Tiger Band ranks.

Marching Band 101..NO ONE BREAKS RANKS.

But HPL can.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159031 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

my favorite pics of him
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:03 pm to
Huey Long has been described as a benevolent dictator.

Here are some of his accomplishments:

quote:

He appealed to the common people of Louisiana with his "Share Our Wealth" program, which promised economic prosperity to those hard hit by the Great Depression. This was a proposed redistribution of wealth using a corporate tax system.

As governor, he established a free textbook plan for public schools, and an adult literacy program. He was also known for pushing the legislation of an energy program that provided inexpensive natural gas to the residents of New Orleans. Much as FDR had pushed for New Deal programs, Long established numerous public works programs throughout the state, including roads, bridges, public buildings, and hospitals. This included a new State Capitol and a governor's mansion. Construction of the first railroad bridge across the Mississippi River in the state was begun in earnest in 1932, and when completed (after his death) in 1935, it was named the Huey P. Long Bridge.

Huey Long
quote:

Following the failed impeachment attempt in the Senate, Long became ruthless when dealing with his enemies. He fired their relatives from state jobs and supported candidates to defeat them in elections. After impeachment, Long appears to have concluded that extra-legal means would be needed to defend the interests of the common people against the powerful money interests. "I used to try to get things done by saying 'please'," said Long. "Now...I dynamite 'em out of my path."

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:09 pm to
quote:



And if you're going to criticize him, it's fair to at least acknowledge what he did for the state and the common citizens.


Oh, he did a lot for the poor folks, or they thought. He also screwed up La politics for decades to come, and now poor folks are still feeling the affects.

Even DU regulars realize the damages of Long

quote:

Does that excuse Huey Long's policies? Not at all--at least not in my book.

He not only perpetuated corruption--he expanded it. He dictated to all people involved in state and local politics what they were to do. Through his established network, he had people he didn't like arrested and thrown in jail. He fired people at state universities because they were critical of him. He widened Jim Crow laws in his state. I could go on and on--this is just what I can recall from my readings.

But if your argument is that since LA politics were already corrupt, he didn't do any worse, you are wrong. He intensified nepotic and despotic behaviour in state government and his tentacles reached all the way down to local councils.


LINK

He was a power hungry dictator want to be who realized his power would be in throwing crumbs to the poor and using silly populist bullshite to gain power, while using violence and intimidation to transform the rest of the state to conform to his power.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33904 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:22 pm to
In school I was taught how great he was, that he was the greatest Louisiana politician ever essentially. Today I realize he was completely corrupt and had some pretty left-based political ideas
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
8095 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:22 pm to
Win or Lose Corporation.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106081 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:23 pm to
My point was he didn't exist in a vacuum, and you can't understand him without understanding the environment he sprang from.
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:24 pm to
But he never found a QB for LSU.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:24 pm to
One of the last true great American politicians.

This post was edited on 1/31/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159031 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

But he never found a QB for LSU
neither has miles
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76158 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:25 pm to
Deduct Box, etc...

Louisiana has been cursed and blest with two brilliant flawed governors:

HPL & EWE

There's no place in the government of a republic for either.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88455 posts
Posted on 1/31/16 at 4:27 pm to
He was Louisiana's dictator. And he made a shite place to live worse for a lot of people.
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