- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: What is the sales pitch for meth and heroine?
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:44 pm to SohCahToa
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:44 pm to SohCahToa
quote:
Being 15 months clean from drugs (heroin included) and alcohol, i can tell you from experience that no one WANTS to do heroin. I dont know anyone who out of the blue just chose to go straight and get addicted to dope. The first time i did it i was sick from not having pain pills, and refused to do it for hours because i knew what it would lead to. But the pain of being dope sick won out and i was off and running.
Trust me I know, I have 2 good friends that started that same way. Once they tried heroin and realized it was a better high for about 1/5 of the cost they were all over it and now their lives are total shite. I don't care how sick I was or how much pain I was in, I would NEVER try heroin. Unless I had a terminal illness of course, if I knew for a fact I was dying in a couple of months I wouldn't mind using some.
0
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:48 pm to SohCahToa
quote:
SohCahToa
Congrats on 15 months, I have just a shade over 5 years and bro it gets easier. So far the thoughts have pretty much gone away but I still get them time to time. Keep doing what you're doing it'll get better.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:49 pm to SohCahToa
quote:
Was it enjoyable sometimes? Absolutely, the buzz is ridiculous. But we really dont have the choice that people claim we do.
I am sure it is the best feeling ever, which is why I will never do it. As far as choices all opiate/opiod addicts have an easy way off of them by going to a doctor and getting subs. Sure subs aren't the same as being totally clean but they aren't really a big deal at all compared to full agonists and they allow people to taper off and quit altogether fairly easily if they want to but I think it's probably best for former heroin addicts to just take 1mg a day of sub forever so they don't relapse since almost all eventually will.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:50 pm to lsu480
quote:
Adderall is chemically related to Meth and they both do give you extra energy but they are Adderall is not "pretty much" meth. That is like saying a BB gun is pretty much a .50 cal, Meth is so much stronger that it is ridiculous to compare the two, meth is horrible shite.
Yup. Saying Adderall is like meth is like saying carbon dioxide, which we harmlessly exhale is pretty much the same as carbon monoxide, because they're chemically similar.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:50 pm to SohCahToa
quote:
But we really dont have the choice that people claim we do.
You lost me here. Victim role.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:51 pm to rebeloke
Idk
I'll stick to thc and booze
I'll stick to thc and booze
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:53 pm to epbart
I've heard meth described as adderall on adderall, or adderall²
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:53 pm to Agforlife
I never would have guessed you were a tweaker for 30 years, damn! Congrats on being off of it though, that shite is so gross. I tried it a handful of times in college and after each 2-3 day session, which were super fun, I had no interest in doing it again for months because it just made me feel so gross after. I never understood how people could get hooked on it for that reason but I know many that have and it turned all of them into lying thiefs.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:55 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
I've heard meth described as adderall on adderall, or adderall²
Honestly meth is so much stronger that it is ridiculous to compare the two.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:55 pm to Festus
quote:
You lost me here. Victim role
Yeah, you always have a choice.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:59 pm to SabiDojo
If you look at people that are in the midst of some type of battle, it's always their go to line. Like those poverty stricken, who convince themselves they had no choice in robbing, assaulting, rioting, etc. It's an excuse used to justify behavior. To make yourself out to be a victim removes your culpability.
That's why people remain locked in the same behaviors.
That's why people remain locked in the same behaviors.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:59 pm to Festus
No victim role at all. I lost the choice because of my own actions and my own actions only. I dont blame my use on anyone or anything other than the fact that i fricked off and lived such a terrible life that when it came time do the right thing or the easy thing i didnt have a choice. My brain was built to frick up due to the way i dealt with things in the past. Did i have a choice to handle things morally and respectfully in life? Yes. But i chose not to and it led me down a path to where getting loaded to deal with common everyday occurrences was the only thing i knew.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:59 pm to lsu480
quote:
Honestly meth is so much stronger that it is ridiculous to compare the two.
The extent to which I love my Vyvanse is a pretty clear sign that I need to stay the hell away from meth. Plus, my meth-addicted aunt basically stole my grandmother's house for more of it.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:59 pm to rebeloke
How does a never-ending, super-orgasm sound?
Thats the sales pitch.
Thats the sales pitch.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 1:00 pm to SohCahToa
I don't understand what you're trying to say. At what point did you have no choices?
Posted on 7/18/15 at 1:03 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
Yeah, you always have a choice.
There's MASSIVE amount of data that says you really don't have a choice.
It has to do with the way the brain works. The brain tricked into thinking the drugs are the most important thing for survival. More important than food. More important than sex.
Ever hear an addict say that drugs are better than sex? They aren't lying.
It's hard for a non addict to believe these things but try this: don't eat for a couple of days and report back to us and tell us if aren't thinking about eating.
BUT addicts do have a choice once they get into recovery. They CAN chose to go back or not.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 1:03 pm to lsu480
quote:
never would have guessed you were a tweaker for 30 years, damn!
Yeah I started back when it was all p2p dope and you had to have some knowledge and skill to make it. The shite out there today is bad compared to the old stuff. As for those saying you have a choice, in the strict definition of the word, yes, but in reality if you are truly an addict then no you don't. I'm not going to argue the point with y'all cause you won't ever understand.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 1:04 pm to SohCahToa
quote:
No victim role at all. I lost the choice because of my own actions and my own actions only. I dont blame my use on anyone or anything other than the fact that i fricked off and lived such a terrible life that when it came time do the right thing or the easy thing i didnt have a choice. My brain was built to frick up due to the way i dealt with things in the past. Did i have a choice to handle things morally and respectfully in life? Yes. But i chose not to and it led me down a path to where getting loaded to deal with common everyday occurrences was the only thing i knew.
Well said
Posted on 7/18/15 at 1:06 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
The extent to which I love my Vyvanse is a pretty clear sign that I need to stay the hell away from meth. Plus, my meth-addicted aunt basically stole my grandmother's house for more of it.
Of course you should stay away from it but just because you love Vyvanse that doesn't mean you would love meth. I way prefer it and Adderall over meth. Addys and Vyvanse give you energy and help you think without any horrible come down. When you do meth it gives you WAY too much energy, you end up thinking crazy shite and when you come down you feel like you just spent a week in Vegas. It blows as a drug and makes addicts into the shittiest people you could ever meet.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 1:06 pm to LesMiles BFF
I know what the data states, but none of that data affirmatively states that such changes in the brain totally negates one's free will. It makes it more difficult, but doesn't completely eradicate it.
Page 3 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News