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re: What is so offensive about black face?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:34 pm to AnonymousTiger
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:34 pm to AnonymousTiger
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my wife as a crack whore
I tried to convince Mrs P to go as a crack whore as well, figured we'd save money on a costume.
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Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:36 pm to etm512
The hypocrisy continues! Is this another, "white people are offended that other people are offended?" I LOVE these! Tell me more about how people who get offended are pussies and ignorant.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:37 pm to AnonymousTiger
I think it's funny.
Especially the lethal weapon remake episode of its always sunny in Philadelphia
Especially the lethal weapon remake episode of its always sunny in Philadelphia
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:38 pm to HeadCoach
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The hypocrisy continues! Is this another, "white people are offended that other people are offended?" I LOVE these! Tell me more about how people who get offended are pussies and ignorant.
Nah, that should just about sum it up.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:38 pm to AnonymousTiger
Why don't you stroll on down to the nearest MLK blvd and find out.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:39 pm to AnonymousTiger
Why can't you?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:48 pm to AnonymousTiger
There's a history of black face being used to portray black people as silly, frivolous, childish, and stupid by white people in entertainment. There is an association that goes along with black face that black people are just an object of amusement for white people.
On the other hand, some people are overly sensitive about simple face paint and read too much into it looking for something to be offended about.
On the other hand, some people are overly sensitive about simple face paint and read too much into it looking for something to be offended about.
This post was edited on 10/26/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:49 pm to Peazey
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There's a history of black face being used to portray black people as silly, frivolous, childish, and stupid by white people in entertainment.
This pretty much sums up any black stand up comic or skit comedy show, except its about white people.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:52 pm to AnonymousTiger
I went black face for Halloween before.
No black people attending the party were offended. Most thought it was hilarious.
No black people attending the party were offended. Most thought it was hilarious.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:56 pm to AnonymousTiger
Menstrual Show =/= Minstrel Show
Who knew?
Who knew?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:56 pm to LucasP
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It was used in comedy bits alongside some pretty unflattering stereotypes. If it weren't for that history of it, I doubt it would be offensive.
And to be fair, modern black folks, generally, object to most portrayals back then - including Hattie McDaniel, Butterfly McQueen - even Arthur "Dooley" Wilson's character of Sam in Casablanca takes hits for being somewhat stereotypical, although for the time, I thought an incredibly enlightened character - I mean, he was an employee, but clearly Rick's most valued. He listened to Sam's advice (but didn't take it) - told Sam about the competing offer, etc.
But, straight up black face is rightfully considered highly offensive today. I would assume that a fair minded black person might watch an incredible performance such as Al Jolson in "Mammy" - and appreciate it for what it is, and still feel offended and insulted by the performance, generally.
It's history and we shouldn't, pardon the pun, whitewash it, but I urge people on both sides of the issue to be objective about it.
This reminds me about the folk art which covers, among other things, lawn jockeys and blackface-type representations than ran from the Reconstruction period, really all the way through the 1950s - even Disney films were not immune, particularly the crows in Dumbo. They could be used as a teaching point. I think America's cowardice on racial issues makes ignoring and revisionism just "easier".
We wouldn't want to display something that makes anyone uncomfortable.
This post was edited on 10/26/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 10/26/15 at 2:58 pm to AnonymousTiger
My father in law's parents lived in rural
Mississippi years ago and had a black man and woman who were married that lived nearby and also worked for them doing whatever they were hired to do. The families were very close and their kids were always around. I have seen a picture from one Halloween where the kids dressed up as white people. Completely covering their faces and arms in white powder or makeup. They trick or treated as white people and in the picture they are laughing their asses off. I thought it was hysterical. The picture was probably from the 60s.
Mississippi years ago and had a black man and woman who were married that lived nearby and also worked for them doing whatever they were hired to do. The families were very close and their kids were always around. I have seen a picture from one Halloween where the kids dressed up as white people. Completely covering their faces and arms in white powder or makeup. They trick or treated as white people and in the picture they are laughing their asses off. I thought it was hysterical. The picture was probably from the 60s.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:01 pm to Ace Midnight
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Sam in Casablanca takes hits for being somewhat stereotypical, although for the time, I thought an incredibly enlightened character - I mean, he was an employee, but clearly Rick's most valued. He listened to Sam's advice (but didn't take it)
How about a Spoilers tag? Dick.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:03 pm to LucasP
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How about a Spoilers tag? Dick.
The Germans lose, dawg.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:11 pm to AnonymousTiger
Get it?
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:11 pm to Ace Midnight
I love how people think because black people they know didn't say anything about it instantly makes it fine. The history behind black face is what makes it offensive. You are portraying someone of color as a joke. If you get offended by Dave Chapelle acting having white-face what makes you think some blacks won't get offended of someone wearing blackface?
I'm not sensitive or the PC polive I genuinely just don't like seeing it around.
I'm not sensitive or the PC polive I genuinely just don't like seeing it around.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:13 pm to Kracka
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Naw, it's far beyond just black people. You can't make fun of any minority or gender. The only people who can be made fun of are white people, and the only people who can make fun of any gender or minority are other minorities.
Nah, it's still cool to make fun of Asians. Remember Jeremy Linn? I think the newspaper headline after he had a bad night was "A Chink in the Armor".
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:15 pm to dwgsfrlife7673
The history behind the swastika changed pretty dramatically too. Times change. People are going around preaching diversity and acceptance but how can we reach that when we have to tiptoe around certain things that might offend people? There is nothing inherently racist about having dark paint on your skin for a costume. What you do while wearing it may be racist.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:22 pm to LucasP
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It was used in comedy bits alongside some pretty unflattering stereotypes. If it weren't for that history of it, I doubt it would be offensive
This. Plus black face had to be used because most theaters wouldn't allow black patrons or actors into the theatre house. Filmmakers generally had white people in black face rather than hiring black peoples.
Posted on 10/26/15 at 3:28 pm to dwgsfrlife7673
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If you get offended by Dave Chapelle acting having white-face what makes you think some blacks won't get offended of someone wearing blackface?
Do you think there is a single white person who was offended by Dave's white-face skit?
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