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re: What is net neutrality?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:42 am to soccerfüt
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:42 am to soccerfüt
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I had the goal of net neutrality explained to me as the attempt to keep the online playing field level for all consumers and competitors.
By adding government regulations? Don't discount the possibility of a party in power "regulating" political speech through the regulatory agency. It was tried with radio under the Obama administration, which proposed an equal time policy for talk radio.
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:43 am to Lou Pai
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I want people to spend less time on the internet
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:44 am to TulaneFan
Compare it to your cable bill. You get the basic package from them, if you want movie channels there’s an additional fee. Sports package? Another fee. Adult channels? Yep, more money.
You’ll have basic internet service. The providers can charge additional fees for bandwidth and to get to social media sites, porn, sports, YouTube and Netflix.
You’ll have basic internet service. The providers can charge additional fees for bandwidth and to get to social media sites, porn, sports, YouTube and Netflix.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:45 am to H. E. Pennypacker
Have an upvote mate. I hope people look to me as an example to avoid emulating.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:13 am to TulaneFan
In 2016, Netflix secretly reduced the quality of traffic going to Verizon and AT&T users. T-Mobile noticed the degraded video quality and assumed it was being done by Verizon and AT&T and started publicly attacking them. Netflix came forward and admitted what they were doing. They said it was being done so that customers of those telecoms wouldn’t go over their data limits.
My fear is that NN would lead to the government doing something similar in the name of consumer protection. If Joe Bob out in the sticks can’t get fast internet, why is it fair for someone in the suburbs to have speedy access? Government’s solution - bring everyone down to the same miserable level, even if people are willing to pay extra for a better experience.
My fear is that NN would lead to the government doing something similar in the name of consumer protection. If Joe Bob out in the sticks can’t get fast internet, why is it fair for someone in the suburbs to have speedy access? Government’s solution - bring everyone down to the same miserable level, even if people are willing to pay extra for a better experience.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:19 am to stout
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The internet was OK before Obama enacted NN. Care to speculate why?
Not it wasn't. Companies had already been caught doing things like throttling that NN is supposed to stop.
Repealing NN can be nothing but bad for the consumer.
The best thing that could happen is to open up competition among ISPs and eliminate the regional monopolies.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:24 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:19 am to BobABooey
It's legislating mediocrity into permanency.
And yes I understand the cronyism going on at the state and municipality level. This is not the answer.
And yes I understand the cronyism going on at the state and municipality level. This is not the answer.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:21 am to Gray Tiger
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Don't discount the possibility of a party in power "regulating" political speech through the regulatory agency.
Hell a lot of the biggest websites are already doing that for the government.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:25 am to SG_Geaux
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Not it wasn't. Companies had already been caught doing things like throttling that NN is supposed to stop.
ISPs do manage bandwidth and network traffic, but that's not about capitulating to the highest bidder - it's about ensuring a minimum level of service for all subscribers. Bandwidth isn't unlimited. It has to be managed to ensure everyone has service. I experienced this first hand once when my ISP oversold accounts and took months to create the "traffic" lanes that was causing the bottleneck.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:30 am to TulaneFan
Net Neutrality is probably the best thing Obama did for us, and I don’t like the man.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:40 am to stout
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I don't understand people that want the Government to have more control over us.
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This is another Gov caused issue. Cut the red tape thus allowing smaller / more ISPs in areas. Also, under Obama many ISPs took billions from us to expand their networks to rural areas and just pocketed the money
If they're stealing millions of dollars from us then maybe regulating them isn't a bad idea
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:51 am to Cap Crunch
Or you know...not giving them millions of tax payers money in the first place.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:02 am to Volvagia
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What is hilarious is that the crux of the argument against it is that they will never ever take advantage of their utility style monopolies and do these bad things anyway. They just don’t like being forbidden from doing it.
To put it another way, they argue that the government should not interfere with the free market for the sake of freedom and because the free market will return a more efficient process... while many major ISP's operate in government protected local monopolies and have an inefficient amount of market power that makes actual competition impossible.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:03 am to Breaux
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Compare it to your cable bill. You get the basic package from them, if you want movie channels there’s an additional fee. Sports package? Another fee. Adult channels? Yep, more money.
You’ll have basic internet service. The providers can charge additional fees for bandwidth and to get to social media sites, porn, sports, YouTube and Netflix.
Somebody reads reddit.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:49 am to Obtuse1
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Of course the most likely scenarios are when ISPs are also content providers and start to throttle other content providers who compete with them.
Like Cox being able to charge more for Netflix, which could threaten the Netflix business model and push Netflix users to watch more cable, purchased from Cox.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:53 am to TulaneFan
It basically means that ISPs can't control speeds based on what you're watching and can't block areas of the internet.
Without it the internet would look like our current cable TV options. You get basic internet that allows you to go to google, amazon, etc. You want to go to Facebook? Sign up for our Social Media package for only $5/mo. more. How bout streaming content? Get that for only $50/mo more.
It would also allow ISPs to block sites that they disagree with or that are in a contract dispute with the ISP.
This is basically what the internet will look like without it:
But we should just trust the former Verizon employee that still has a vested interest in the performance of that company telling us net neutrality is bad for us.
Without it the internet would look like our current cable TV options. You get basic internet that allows you to go to google, amazon, etc. You want to go to Facebook? Sign up for our Social Media package for only $5/mo. more. How bout streaming content? Get that for only $50/mo more.
It would also allow ISPs to block sites that they disagree with or that are in a contract dispute with the ISP.
This is basically what the internet will look like without it:
But we should just trust the former Verizon employee that still has a vested interest in the performance of that company telling us net neutrality is bad for us.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:01 am to stout
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The internet was OK before Obama enacted NN. Care to speculate why?
Why? Because you are either an idiot or a shill. Obama didn't "enact" net neutrality. It simply existed before. During the Obama administration ISPs got the idea that they could take control of content and the Obama administration said that they could not. Now your ilk wants to finish the job and let the ISPs take control of content. Why on Earth would you want that? Either you are an idiot and don't understand, or you are a shill. Which is it?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:02 am to MLCLyons
Look another reddit reader.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:05 am to stout
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Read this about why NN going away isn't a "the sky is falling" scenario. LINK
You so-called cite is a cite to yourself linking to an anonymous person's Twitter feed?
You are a shill.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:09 am to TBoy
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You so-called cite is a cite to yourself linking to an anonymous person's Twitter feed?
That person is now crying on twitter about how the election in Alabama yesterday was rigged
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