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re: What does Woodstock 99 say about late-Gen X/early-millennial?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:08 pm to lsuconnman
Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:08 pm to lsuconnman
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That behavior was common in the northeast at the time. Thousands of college students from throughout New England used to descend on UConn for spring weekend in the 90’s. Without fail there was bonfires and flipped cars when the swat teams swept through Sunday night. In ‘98 there was a huge riot with bonfires and burned cars in Hartford after the final night of a DMB show. It was always expected that everyone would clear out the furniture from common areas and set it on fire in the quad if your school had a big win. The Woodstock ‘99 ending was no different, it was just on a larger scale and it was broadcast to a national audience unfamiliar with such behavior.
I’ve never heard of that theory before but it makes sense.
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:12 pm to Havoc
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I’ve never heard of that theory before but it makes sense.
I was in my second year of college and I remember everyone being wired up all the time. It was easy to still buy alcohol, and drink and drive. Ecstasy was everywhere. Bars had tons of fights every night.
This current generation of kids seems much more subdued, whining about rights and pronouns.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:34 pm to lsuconnman
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That behavior was common in the northeast at the time. Thousands of college students from throughout New England used to descend on UConn for spring weekend in the 90’s. Without fail there was bonfires and flipped cars when the swat teams swept through Sunday night. In ‘98 there was a huge riot with bonfires and burned cars in Hartford after the final night of a DMB show. It was always expected that everyone would clear out the furniture from common areas and set it on fire in the quad if your school had a big win. The Woodstock ‘99 ending was no different, it was just on a larger scale and it was broadcast to a national audience unfamiliar with such behavior
Here is one of the things that annoyed me about the HBO documentary last year. They tried to link the chaos and “white male rage” of Woodstock ‘99 to Trump’s 2016 electoral victory.
They also made the claim that, due to prices, the crowd was a bunch of 20 year old frat boys from well off households.
I would also have to believe that kids from New England were over represented at Woodstock and kids from the South and Midwest were underrepresented - sure some kids made the drive from Arkansas but there would be far more sliding overhead from NYC. The fact that we could easily drive there from New Hampshire where we were stationed was part of why our group went.
Put everything together - the average Woodstock attendee in 1999 was a 37 year old white college graduate from a New England university by the time the 2016 election rolled around - you can hardly claim that this particular demographic is a primarily Trump voting block.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 4:58 pm to RedHawk
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I'm Gen X and couldn't stand Nu Metal either. To this day I can't stand to listen to Limp Bizcuit, Kid Rock or Korn. I think Gen X is kind of split with those that liked grunge and didn't care for Nu Metal and those that liked Nu Metal and grunge. No one hated grunge.
I'm an elder millennial, and would not miss grunge if I never heard it again. My older brother, who is a talented musician, used to put on this Sonic Youth cd and try to tell me how complex it was and how genius the movements were. I made fun of him. It had less going on than Huey Lewis and the News. It is just noise.
That said there was a lot of good grunge that was worthy of a listen. Nu Metal sure was awful through and through. Just entirely crap.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:07 pm to dawgfan24348
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I mean you definitely suck but treating generations as a monolith is pretty stupid. I’ve been to a lot of concerts and festivals which of course are filled with millennials and even some zoomers. Surprisingly everything went smooth
When judging generations one should lay blame for the faults for any given generation not on that generation but rather the generation that raised them. All generations going back to the dawn of time start out as a blank canvas. What that canvas becomes is up to the parents and society in which they live.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:08 pm to Havoc
I completely buy the Northeast jerk theory. That’s the shadiest region in the country.
Add to that, dudes who like Limp Bizkit and Korn, and you have a recipe for disaster.
Also, corporate greed.
It seemed like the typical “Boomers want to relive the ideals of their youth but also corporatize everything that made the original great and wonder what’s wrong with the kids” situation.
I’d say that’s the spirit of the late 90s in a nutshell.
Add to that, dudes who like Limp Bizkit and Korn, and you have a recipe for disaster.
Also, corporate greed.
It seemed like the typical “Boomers want to relive the ideals of their youth but also corporatize everything that made the original great and wonder what’s wrong with the kids” situation.
I’d say that’s the spirit of the late 90s in a nutshell.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:21 pm to thenza
The lady driving around trying to pass out garbage bags is a perfect example. $150 tickets. $4 waters. $8 fries. And you also want me to pick up trash?
I would have told her to go frick herself too.
And she’s horrified that people are defacing the “art” that was on display. I have no doubt that “art” was commissioned and paid for to look like hippy free expression, man…
Not at all spontaneous or organic.
And she literally had no idea why the kids don’t care about that stuff in the same way she cared when she was young.
The obliviousness or at a minimum purposeful delusion of that generation can be astounding at times.
I would have told her to go frick herself too.
And she’s horrified that people are defacing the “art” that was on display. I have no doubt that “art” was commissioned and paid for to look like hippy free expression, man…
Not at all spontaneous or organic.
And she literally had no idea why the kids don’t care about that stuff in the same way she cared when she was young.
The obliviousness or at a minimum purposeful delusion of that generation can be astounding at times.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:27 pm to thenza
I don't disagree, but she seemed to come around in the doc. She acknowledged how people were treated by the organizers.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:30 pm to grizzlylongcut
Woodstock 94 should be talked about more.
Much better show.
Much better show.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:38 pm to SEClint
Indeed it was. I would of loved to have been at that NIN set.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:46 pm to grizzlylongcut
lollapalooza was always more interesting - I don't remember giving two shits about Woodstock 99
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You serious? The hypocrisy was neatly wrapped up into back-to-back questions. It was so directly hypocritical that it took me a while to figure out that it wasn't a joke.
What makes it hypocritical?
quote:Who cares? You don't need to know anything whatsoever about the person to recognize the hypocrisy in what was said. To refresh your memory:
Whats his personal philosophy?
quote:Question 1 puts poster in a box, question 2 is critical of people who put others in boxes. Did this really need to be explained?
Aren’t you a massive fricking leftist? Isn’t that what y’all like to do is put people into little boxes?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:52 pm to Korkstand
Woodstock 99 was not a big deal at the time. I was in high school then and the target demographic. The Family Values Tour and Warped Tour got more hype. Same for Lollapalooza and not long after Bonarroo.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:53 pm to Korkstand
Seemed hypocritical on it’s face to me too.
He called me a dirty liberal once for saying government shouldn’t have shut down small businesses in favor of Walmart and Amazon during Covid, so I think it’s just kinda his thing.
He called me a dirty liberal once for saying government shouldn’t have shut down small businesses in favor of Walmart and Amazon during Covid, so I think it’s just kinda his thing.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:55 pm to LSUBogeyMan
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:18 pm to grizzlylongcut
It says that we've been getting fricked over by Boomers for decades.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:39 pm to thenza
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This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:48 pm to lsuconnman
quote:Other way around
99 was basically the playbook for Burning man.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:04 pm to BRIllini07
quote:..could have sworn it was "Here we are now, entertain us"
"We're alive now, entertain us!" - Nirvana.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:20 pm to grizzlylongcut
quote:Ike and Nixon and Ford.
JFK, Carter, and Bush 41 were the only presidents from that generation.
Bush and Carter were silent generation.
JFK was not from this world.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 8:24 pm
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