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re: What does Woodstock 99 say about late-Gen X/early-millennial?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:28 pm to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:28 pm to grizzlylongcut
Loving that era of nu metal might be one of the worst things about me
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:30 pm to grizzlylongcut
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JFK, Carter, and Bush 41
JFK - I have no idea - his brothers (and father) caused more damage than he did
Carter & Bush & even Dole just continued the demolition that had begun by LBJ
But this is my opinion - most boomers I know aren’t entitled pieces of shite - maybe I don’t know enough - as with millenials - I find them whiny and entitled with a perpetual victim mentality - maybe I don’t know enough of them either
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:30 pm to BRIllini07
Honestly, I think yall are really overthinking this. The lack of planning and the lack of safety measures that went into it was pitiful.
You can't pack 250k people in that area then bring in bands like Korn, RATM, etc, etc. Then over charge people for food and water, without informing them that they can't bring anything to eat or drink, that they would have to purchase those items inside the gates and expect everything to go smooth. They were fricking morons if they really though things would run smooth, especially without legit security guards.
The fact that they just hired random people who had no training told me they didn't give a frick. They could have hired half the amount of security guards who actually had training and it wouldn't have got as much out of control as it did.
I am not convinced they didn't make any money from it. Not only with the things I mentioned earlier, I am sure MTV paid to have rights to air it, which increased the value of what the sponsors paid. And they were in that documentary saying "it was a failure". Yeah the event itself got completely out of control, but they didn't mention anything about finances.
They had people from from different generations who put it together so I don't think generations should even be a talking point in this failure.
You can't pack 250k people in that area then bring in bands like Korn, RATM, etc, etc. Then over charge people for food and water, without informing them that they can't bring anything to eat or drink, that they would have to purchase those items inside the gates and expect everything to go smooth. They were fricking morons if they really though things would run smooth, especially without legit security guards.
The fact that they just hired random people who had no training told me they didn't give a frick. They could have hired half the amount of security guards who actually had training and it wouldn't have got as much out of control as it did.
I am not convinced they didn't make any money from it. Not only with the things I mentioned earlier, I am sure MTV paid to have rights to air it, which increased the value of what the sponsors paid. And they were in that documentary saying "it was a failure". Yeah the event itself got completely out of control, but they didn't mention anything about finances.
They had people from from different generations who put it together so I don't think generations should even be a talking point in this failure.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:36 pm to grizzlylongcut
quote:How smart was it for the promoters to hand out 100,000 candles to a crowd who’d just been jacked up to oblivion for days on Korn/DMV/Limp/RHCP?
No doubt that played a role. But it wasn’t boomers that rioted.
You know, the same kids that had lived like animals for 3 days and nights….. Oh let’s give the tools to make fire and what happens!!! fricking idiot promoters regardless of which generation they represent.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:41 pm to RT1941
My question is were they not allowed to smoke? If there were 250k people there at least 125k of them had lighters.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:41 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Carter & Bush & even Dole just continued the demolition that had begun by LBJ
The damage was begun by FDR (huh, another leftist shite-heel. Imagine that) and was sent into hyperspeed by LBJ.
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But this is my opinion - most boomers I know aren’t entitled pieces of shite - maybe I don’t know enough - as with millenials - I find them whiny and entitled with a perpetual victim mentality - maybe I don’t know enough of them either
I find that both groups have massive issues with entitlement. And really every generation for the previous few generations have huge issues with entitlement.
Sure, anecdotally a lot of the people we know may not fit into that category. But you can’t really tell me it’s not true when the way this nation has voted for the previous 60 or so years is to increase handouts and expand government.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:48 pm to grizzlylongcut
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The damage was begun by FDR
So true - a crazy professor I had in college equated FDR with Hitler (yes the prof was German)
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:50 pm to Ed Osteen
quote:The sheer power of the anger, rage and hard core emotion has always drawn me in, I’m a huge fan.
Loving that era of nu metal might be one of the worst things about me
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:51 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Honestly, not a single thing you just mentioned sounds like a great time.
I had just graduated high school, and it was my first true taste of freedom away from my parents. The lineup was legit. I took a lot of drugs and met a lot of cool people. Some dude walked around with nothing except a sock around his cock and balls. I wonder what he’s up to now. People openly sold and advertised their drugs with their inventory and prices written on cardboard signs. Things don’t have to be perfect if you have the right outlook. Again, the drugs probably helped.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:54 pm to OweO
quote:100% foreshadowed the demolition of festivals and concerts by corporate America. The days of Zephyrfest/Endfest where it's just a stage, beer/water, and some tshirt vendors are LONG gone thanks to those pricks. Now they've all got to have beer gardens, amusement rides, all sorts of nonsense to justify a ridiculous ticket price.
But I watched the special on netflix and through the first episode I thought "this is a perfect example of corporate greed. Find something to sell people on, build it as cheap as possible and anything that happens to people because of it is collateral damage".
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:55 pm to GreenRockTiger
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So true - a crazy professor I had in college equated FDR with Hitler (yes the prof was German)
Sounds to me more like your professor has his head on straight. Although I’d consider FDR to be more closely resembling Stalin but it’s neither here nor there to me. Both are tied at first with Mao on the worst people of the 20th Century shite pile. I’d probably put Stalin highest on that mountain though.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:55 pm to OweO
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They had people from from different generations who put it together so I don't think generations should even be a talking point in this failure.
Of course it was the failure of the people putting it together that allowed the riots and let the place burn down. However, there are cultural elements specific to the late Gen-X era that are highlighted at Woodstock 99.
(1) First and foremost, the fact that bands such as Limp Bizkit, Korn, RATM were popular to begin with is Generational.
(2) Mosh pits being a thing - also generational. This is where most of the injuries and the 1 fatality come into play.
(3) Groping girls who are crowd surfing (a.k.a sexual assault) - not all that uncommon to have a few guys do that at any concert back then. This didn't blend well with the nudity "tradition" associated with Woodstock.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:57 pm to grizzlylongcut
We did it all for the nookie in the 90s. No apologies
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:12 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Why?
I went to high school in the 90’s and let me be the first to say that 90’s music sucks balls. Way too angry and depressing for my taste.
But to answer your question, we were the first generation to grow up without a silver platter, financially. Extreme rises in cost of living, stagnate wages, the end of pensions, high competition for good paying jobs due to women entering the workforce. For all of the generations before us, it was quite easy to get some job, work 30 years and end up with a million in the bank. People our age have to work twice as hard to end up in the same position financially.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:23 pm to pelicanpride
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Things don’t have to be perfect if you have the right outlook.
You wrote in an earlier post that you had to muster up the courage to go into the porta-potty because they were overflowing with shite. You wrote that people wrote “poetry” on the wall of it with human excrement. You wrote that you had stomach issues due to the fact that you people were drinking shite water.
You wrote that you were so hungry that you were considering picking up food off the ground and eating it.
You just wrote that some freak was walking around with nothing but a sock around his genitals like that’s something to aspire to.
The only way you could have ever “enjoyed” that place is to have been so fricked up the entire time that you may as well have no memory of it. Because realistically, Woodstock 99 sounds like a circle of hell, drugs or no drugs.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:24 pm to TCO
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But to answer your question, we were the first generation to grow up without a silver platter, financially.
Excuse me? What?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:36 pm to grizzlylongcut
The only people I knew in 1999 that were fans of Limp Bizkit were total fricktard losers. I think that says more about those that attended Woodstock 99 than it is an indictment on that particular generation.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:38 pm to grizzlylongcut
quote:lol that's not the middle. That the tail end. You grew up in a completely different era than someone born in 1983
guess I’m in the middle of the millennial generation. Born in 93
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:38 pm to grizzlylongcut
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You wrote that you had stomach issues due to the fact that you people were drinking shite water.
Nobody was drinking shite water (I don’t believe). It was just on the ground around the toilets.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:40 pm to grizzlylongcut
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that’s a culmination of what happens when a group of corporate yuppies takes advantage of kids.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 10:57 pm
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