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re: what does the future look like for EV sales?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:18 pm to UtahCajun
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:18 pm to UtahCajun
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Seems like Tesla is the only manufacturer somewhat immune.
Somewhat immune? You mean by making the best selling car in the world? I’d argue Ford, etc are struggling in the electric vehicle market because Tesla produces a vehicle that’s 3-4 years ahead of anyone else and at a very reasonable price.
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:24 pm to TigerintheNO
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what does the future look like for EV sales?
I finally bought one — picking it up this weekend.
I’m still hanging onto my truck though. I just like gas-powered vehicles, especially when it comes to trucks.
I went with a Tesla mostly for the tech and the low maintenance. Basically, all you have to worry about are wipers, tires, and brakes — and the brakes usually last past 100K miles. The only real downside I’ve seen is tire wear, mostly because of the weight.
Battery life, based on everything that I have read, is solid. Older Teslas still hold around 80% capacity even after 150–200K miles.
This one’s just for my daily commute. I’ll still use the truck for my dogs and for hauling stuff when I need to, or for longer trips. I still think we are a little ways away from EVs becoming main stream. The infrastructure isn't there, yet.
Not a tree hugger. Just really impressed with the technology in these vehicles, at least with Tesla. I took advantage of the $7500 tax credit.
Insurance, every 6 months, is $1900 in Louisiana. I'll be selling this vehicle early next year to my business, and it will be registered to my business in another state. Insurance, then, will only be $750 every 6 months.
Edited to add.
I do think that Hybrid vehicles are a better way that car manufacturers in the US should look more into.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 3:27 pm to TigerintheNO
Write this down:
BEV's will have a market share in the 30% range by the mid-2030's.
That is a tripling of the prior 10-ish%. It's still the minority of the market. Hybrids will be the rest of the market.
A lot of demand was pulled forward by the end of the incentives. That rubber band effect will snap back as we go into next year, and you will see a slow, steady climb above 12% again.
They are not for everyone, but do have their advantages. Conventional LiON battery evolution is about tapped out, the next round of solid state batteries will take around a decade to unfold into volume production. Those EVs will be better than today's, but not by 3x-5x or anything like that. More like 50% better, just enough to further open the market. After that, it's going to take some fairly dramatic advances in physics and manufacturing to take the next step in battery tech, which probably won't fully emerge to volume consumer applications until the 2040's, maybe later.
BEV's will have a market share in the 30% range by the mid-2030's.
That is a tripling of the prior 10-ish%. It's still the minority of the market. Hybrids will be the rest of the market.
A lot of demand was pulled forward by the end of the incentives. That rubber band effect will snap back as we go into next year, and you will see a slow, steady climb above 12% again.
They are not for everyone, but do have their advantages. Conventional LiON battery evolution is about tapped out, the next round of solid state batteries will take around a decade to unfold into volume production. Those EVs will be better than today's, but not by 3x-5x or anything like that. More like 50% better, just enough to further open the market. After that, it's going to take some fairly dramatic advances in physics and manufacturing to take the next step in battery tech, which probably won't fully emerge to volume consumer applications until the 2040's, maybe later.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 4:32 pm to Purple Spoon
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for vehicles that are less capable in every way than gas vehicles
BEVs in the same class are almost all significantly more capable than their gas counterpart. Motors are simply better than engines for moving cars down the road, except in the area of energy density and the things that impacts.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:01 pm to WildcatMike
You mean blue oval? They opened one of them, right?
Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:10 pm to Hobie101
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Now do Asia
uh, the only country big enough to matter is China. They are commies. Their EVs are smaller and less desirable. Plus, they are almost entirely dependent on oil imports, so thats why EVs are pushed. Once they saturate their market in 2040, its all downhill from there
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While it remains the world’s largest exporter of electric cars, China experienced a noticeable slowdown in export growth in 2024. According to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM), the country exported over 1.15 million electric cars in 2023, However, in 2024, annual export growth fell to just 7%, split unevenly across destination markets.
With subsidies dead for 3 years or more, the future of US EV purchases is not good. Because the same thing is happening in the EU
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In the world’s second-largest electric car manufacturing region, the European Union, production stagnated in 2024
Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:30 pm to Will Cover
That can be tricky, depending on the state.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:34 pm to Purple Spoon
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less capable in every way than gas
Other than motor/engine reliability, quality of ride, tech, cost of ownership, torque, user interface, self driving, home charging.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 6:44 pm to RobbBobb
I can see the value of an electric car as a 2nd for around town and short trips.
For road trips,I want gas or hybrid.
We have a Prius for wife to go to work,50 miles round trip,gets 60 mpg.
Have a Highlander for trips,went to Florida,1000 miles-got 35 mpg.
For a truck I have a Ridgeline,gets about 23 mpg.
For road trips,I want gas or hybrid.
We have a Prius for wife to go to work,50 miles round trip,gets 60 mpg.
Have a Highlander for trips,went to Florida,1000 miles-got 35 mpg.
For a truck I have a Ridgeline,gets about 23 mpg.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:00 pm to Hobie101
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EV sales are massive in Europe
As someone who owns a house in an EU country and go there often, I can tell you that this is just not true.
As I said, even Cupra is struggling.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:03 pm to TimeOutdoors
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Tesla produces a vehicle that’s 3-4 years ahead of anyone else and at a very reasonable price
I suggest you look into Mercedes, BMW, Cupra and a few other EVs before you say they produce a vehicle 3-4 years ahead of anyone else.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:04 pm to TigerintheNO
As soon as they produce an EV that:
1. has 400+ miles range
2. Can fully recharge in 5 minutes
I’ll be one of the first to buy one. But until then, I have zero interest.
1. has 400+ miles range
2. Can fully recharge in 5 minutes
I’ll be one of the first to buy one. But until then, I have zero interest.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:07 pm to UtahCajun
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I suggest you look into Mercedes, BMW, Cupra and a few other EVs before you say they produce a vehicle 3-4 years ahead of anyone else.
In some aspects yes but Tesla knows batteries like no one else. Everyone else is severely lagging on battery management systems. And that’s going to show in degradation and early life failures.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:10 pm to TigersHuskers
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Im not gonna buy one. EVs are for cucks
Lucky for the incel crowd, trucks aren’t something they need.
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