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re: What does America look like if the Trans-Atlantic slave trade doesn’t occur?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:34 am to fr33manator
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:34 am to fr33manator
Hard to tell. Where else would the slave labor come from if not africa? I definitely think slave traders are not able to move the same amount of volume of people into the south
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:48 am to crazyLSUstudent
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Where else would the slave labor come from if not africa?
Ireland. China. Eastern Europe. Southern Europe
South America. Russia. If the work was there eventually someone would have been found to do it
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:51 am to fr33manator
We’d look like Australia with more Chinese-Americans. Still no Aboriginals.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 12:00 pm to fr33manator
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I mean...America would still have developed without African slavery. Just differently. It’s not like it was slavery that made us great.
I think we became great in spite of slavery. It’s effects are an ignominious legacy of greed.
I disagree. I can’t think of any world power that has risen without exploiting someone else to some degree, either through enslavement, forcefully extracting resources from other people, or installing a repressive totalitarian regime over it’s own people. The US is no different.
While slavery wasn’t the only thing driving the economy, you can’t discount its effect on US growth. The Antebellum US was like the China of today, producing the majority of the worlds cotton. That doesn’t happen without free labor.
Lots of wealth was created during that period. What if there was less of it to drive the expansion of railroads, steel manufacturing, the roaring 20s? Would we have been strong enough during the 1940s to fight and win WWII?
Imagine for a sec what the world would like right now if everyone in, say, the health care sector worked for free. That’s how different things would have looked in the Antebellum south with no slaves.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:59 pm to FearlessFreep
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Much better climate, vastly more arable land, vast more habitable coastline for ports, all resulting in more prosperity by an order of magnitude.
Only thing similar would be ethnic/racial makeup.

Posted on 11/28/17 at 4:16 pm to StupidBinder
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I disagree. I can’t think of any world power that has risen without exploiting someone else to some degree, either through enslavement, forcefully extracting resources from other people, or installing a repressive totalitarian regime over it’s own people. The US is no different.
But there’s no reason it had to be African slaves, is there? Why not Chinese or Irish or Slavs?
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Imagine for a sec what the world would like right now if everyone in, say, the health care sector worked for free. That’s how different things would have looked in the Antebellum south with no slaves.
Are you comparing health care with agricultural work?
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