re: What do you define as job hopper?

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I don't know if I'll finish my career at my current employer but it would really sting to go back to the base level of vacation days at this point. I get like 30 days of PTO per year now.

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You know that is negotiable. If they say they can't negotiate days off, they can damn sure negotiate raising your salary to compensate for taking an equivalent number of days off without pay.

I'm at a conundrum. I've been at my employer for nearly 8 years, and I keep getting interest from other employers for senior leadership roles that would pay me more, but I plan to retire within two years. I can stay right where I am with lots of autonomy, but I truly cannot stand the guy I report to. He is unqualified, knows nothing about the kind of work I perform and is too timid to pick up a phone and call me to discuss business planning. He's an impediment to effective work. I don't know if I want to stay if I have to keep reporting to him, but it wouldn't be fair to a new employer to take a leadership role that I'll bail on in less than 2 years. I may just retire earlier and work independently to subsidize retirement as a business consultant or manufacturer's rep firm.

6 months or less is the new norm, imo. That's for lower paying jobs.

Ive moved at 2 yr mark consistently, I get asked about it but got the job I wanted last go round... so whatever.

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hated the applying/interviewing,etc process I'd rather stay at a good spot and earn my raises

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Last 6 or so years im up about 2.5x on my salary with 5 moves. Just took one I’ll probably be in longer term. If I had stayed put it would’ve been 3% annual, with possibility of 2 years of that skipped due to covid.

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Last 6 or so years im up about 2.5x on my salary with 5 moves. Just took one I’ll probably be in longer term. If I had stayed put it would’ve been 3% annual, with possibility of 2 years of that skipped due to covid.

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Not sure what your industry is like, but what exactly did you learn or accomplish by having 5 moves in 6 years? You’re basically entry level experience with senior level pay. Seems like that’s something that will eventually burn you.

Wi5h the company I retired from, it wasn't unusual to see people walking around with 20 or 25 year pens on.

When got a new guy or gal (usually guys) in our department, we could check the license and see how many firms were in the history.

Usually the ones that had a history of 2 or 3 years at a firm would be gone in 2 or 3 with us. Those are job hoppers.

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It’s an employee’s market nowadays. The older generation tends to be more loyal and stay longer but the younger generation has high standards with jobs. I’ve been at my current company for two years but don’t think for one minute that if I find a better opportunity that I won’t jump ship. I do what’s best for me and my family, not what’s best for my company. If I die today, I will be replaced in a month. frick my employer, they’ll be just fine without me. I work most weekends and I’m working today (and some other holidays) - I get paid well to do it but I’d 100% take a $10,000-$20,000 a year paycut to be off more with similar benefits. We’re all replaceable and nobody looks out for me like I look out for me. Employers need to understand this is a two-way street and they no longer have the upper hand. If we get pissed off, we’ll just move on.

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100% agree with this summary of events.

I’m an old guy in here but, when pensions were replaced by 401ks which were a joke in the formulation years because of hidden, insane, fees, attributed (laws cut out later on).
Good company’s who practiced TQM came up with a true employee profit sharing plan and in the late eighties lit led to magnificent results for all.

This was replaced as more and more companies bought into the six sigma nightmare from which IMO has ruined employee / employer agreements.

Now it’s a dog eat dog world.

A new profit sharing program was introduced this quarter we had 22,000,000 growth.

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0.002454545454545% That’s your profit sharing percentage out of the 22000000

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It’s a joke.

Like you have a job fricktwat

Every 2-3 years I take interviews. Usually get an offer. Give the current company a chance to keep me if the job is still interesting. IT. Cloud, security, DevOps, developer.