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re: What do plant operators do? And how much do they really make?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:59 pm to RealityTiger
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:59 pm to RealityTiger
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Regular bonuses dependent on production
At many places, these bonuses are 10 to 15% of the annual salary depending on the site or overall company performance.
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:01 pm to RealityTiger
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It's really not a lot of money.
Lol, I prob work more than you and wont ever take home that much.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:07 pm to Epic Cajun
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, but I value flexibility too much for all that non-sense.
Consider at base you work about the same amount of hours.
Regular 8 hour job v. 12 hour shift. About 100 hours difference. Assuming you walk in at 9 and leave immediately at 5. Throw in a couple "extra" hours and you probably are a lot closer if not working more with a 9-5.
The benefit comes when you look at the amount of actual days worked. 260 v. 183 per year.
Also, you get 80 hours of vacation? That's two weeks off. 80 hours of vacation can be over 3 weeks off if taken right on a swing shift.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:13 pm to MontyFranklyn
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I know a PHd in Econ that makes $120K, works 25 hours a week
After 4 years undergraduate school, and 4-6 more years of what amounts to penal servitude to get the PhD I would hope he does.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:16 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:I don't think you quite grasp the concept or definition of the word "ignorant".
I get sick of ignorant operators.
quote:I have a BS (Management) from LSU. There are several operators I work with who have bachelor's degrees. That generalization goes out the window too.
Because there's a shite ton of people with little education in Louisiana.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Mingo Was His NameO
What is your deal with operators? I'm in engineering and work different plants and 99% of what you said in this thread is absolute BS. As is most of the stuff posted in this thread.
Sure they eat good at night and can be a dick to contractors etc but most are not dumb, at all. Most we're just too lazy to get a 4 year degree or if they got a 4 year degree got tired of making no money.
In the LC area pay ranges from 25/hour while training in up to 50/hour for top operators at two of the plants around here but average is right around 40 for top pay as a normal operator around 45 for top operators.
All of y'all mouthing off about professionals making that is laughable. Sure many do especially those in stem fields but it's not the norm. In Louisiana the average salary for someone with a 4 year degree is 53k, with a BS it's 59k. Sorry but any way you slice it operators make well above the median income even before OT and way way above once you factor in OT. Oh and before you say, oh that's cause it's Louisiana, the average in the US is 59k with a bachelor's.
Granted those in engineering like myself can make much more without doing that, so can lawyers, doctors etc but let's not act like it's the norm. Hell the median salary for those with professional degrees is still only 89k. Hell average for a lawyer in Louisiana is under 100k.
All that being said, 80-90k with six months off and amazing benefits without years in school sounds D's like a pretty good gig for 95% of those out there.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:18 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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As for getting rich, yes it's very possible. I have a family member who just retired from Exxon with over $2 million.
I wouldn't call that "rich"
Having 2 million bucks in 2017 put you at the 95 percentile in net worth, so whether it is rich or not he still has more money than 95% of all Americans.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:22 pm to fightin tigers
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Consider at base you work about the same amount of hours.
Regular 8 hour job v. 12 hour shift. About 100 hours difference. Assuming you walk in at 9 and leave immediately at 5. Throw in a couple "extra" hours and you probably are a lot closer if not working more with a 9-5.
The benefit comes when you look at the amount of actual days worked. 260 v. 183 per year.
How many of these guys work only their "normal" shift work and don't have the "extra" days or hours? Not to mention, I work Monday-Friday, every week. I don't have to look at a schedule to know if I'm going to be off on a Saturday 6 months from now. I know I will. I don't have to look at a calendar to know if I'm going to be off for Christmas. I know I will.
ETA: I also couldn't work as a nurse for the same reason. Not having a set schedule would drive me insane.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:24 pm to lsu777
quote:This is me. In addition to very few bonuses, no regular yearly raise, shitty insurance, shitty retirement, vacation sucked, etc. I got tired of all that.
got a 4 year degree got tired of making no money.
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I'm in engineering
A good operator will make a good engineer and vice versa.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:28 pm to Epic Cajun
I'll enjoyed those 6 years of co-eds and drinking through college, engineering office hours, and pretty decent pay enough.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:31 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:It depends. You'd be surprised. Generally, they're frowned on when they always refuse to cover somebody for vacation or being on call. But there are guys out there who always do that. I mean, big deal. I have to pick up a few extra shifts. I make an extra $300-600 a paycheck, and only work two more days/nights when I don't have anything going on at home anyway.
How many of these guys work only their "normal" shift work and don't have the "extra" days or hours?
quote:Shift work is not for everybody. I happen to be ok with it, personally. I kind of like having off during the week when the rest of the world is at work. I also value having every other weekend off, as well. Like I said in my wall of text post...I don't plan to work shift for the rest of my life. Most operators don't, either. You do your time for a solid ten or so years, then you work your way into a supervisory (day) job.
I work Monday-Friday, every week. I don't have to look at a schedule to know if I'm going to be off on a Saturday 6 months from now. I know I will. I don't have to look at a calendar to know if I'm going to be off for Christmas. I know I will.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:32 pm to jimbeam
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I'll enjoyed those 6 years of co-eds and drinking through college, engineering office hours, and pretty decent pay enough.
I enjoy that too, thing is engineering isn't for 99% of the population. So what are they supposed to do, especially those that are mechanically inclined and have a good work ethic and want more than just to be a welder?
Not saying you jimbeam, but most in this thread need to get some perspective.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:34 pm to lsu777
That tool (Mingo is his name O) is downvoting every reply you and I make now. 
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:42 pm to RealityTiger
People without perspective tend to do that.
And people saying operators work so much.... You do realize on a normal 8-5 shift you work 250+ days a year right? And operator works 183 plus whatever overtime he picks up.
Let's say he picks up 67 shifts to even it out, that's 804 hours of extra OT. I say extra cause many get it after 8 hours. That's 40-50k of extra money to work the same amount of days.
I understand 12 hour shifts aren't for everyone. But if you are a professional and remotely successful you are prolly working 10 hours a day, 50+ hours a week and not getting paid for those hours.
There is give and take with every job. But any way you slice it 35+ an hour is a damn good living for the average person. People have no perspective. I work with people like this, civil engineers with no PE and under 30 making 100k and still bitching about being under paid. Sure there are places you can make more but have perspective on what others make.
And people saying operators work so much.... You do realize on a normal 8-5 shift you work 250+ days a year right? And operator works 183 plus whatever overtime he picks up.
Let's say he picks up 67 shifts to even it out, that's 804 hours of extra OT. I say extra cause many get it after 8 hours. That's 40-50k of extra money to work the same amount of days.
I understand 12 hour shifts aren't for everyone. But if you are a professional and remotely successful you are prolly working 10 hours a day, 50+ hours a week and not getting paid for those hours.
There is give and take with every job. But any way you slice it 35+ an hour is a damn good living for the average person. People have no perspective. I work with people like this, civil engineers with no PE and under 30 making 100k and still bitching about being under paid. Sure there are places you can make more but have perspective on what others make.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:43 pm to lsu777
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I enjoy that too, thing is engineering isn't for 99% of the population. So what are they supposed to do, especially those that are mechanically inclined and have a good work ethic and want more than just to be a welder?
I totally get it, too. If I didn't have better options, it would be a good way to make decent pay. I just feel like some people take it to the polar opposite side of the equation, like it's some awesome job or something. shite, people make decent money working offshore, but that's not something I'd want to do either. It's not awesome, but it also doesn't suck. You get paid a good wage because the hours/shifts suck and the job has a lot of responsibility (and can be potentially hazardous).
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:46 pm to lsu777
Divorce rate seems very high with our operators @ our site
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:47 pm to lsu777
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And people saying operators work so much.... You do realize on a normal 8-5 shift you work 250+ days a year right? And operator works 183 plus whatever overtime he picks up.
Let's say he picks up 67 shifts to even it out, that's 804 hours of extra OT. I say extra cause many get it after 8 hours. That's 40-50k of extra money to work the same amount of days.
It's not the number of days, it's the actual days. Working weekends and holidays is super inconvenient (for me at least).
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I understand 12 hour shifts aren't for everyone. But if you are a professional and remotely successful you are prolly working 10 hours a day, 50+ hours a week and not getting paid for those hours.
I also wouldn't want to be in that situation. Luckily, I suppose I'm an outlier.
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There is give and take with every job. But any way you slice it 35+ an hour is a damn good living for the average person. People have no perspective. I work with people like this, civil engineers with no PE and under 30 making 100k and still bitching about being under paid. Sure there are places you can make more but have perspective on what others make.
100% agree with this. People are naive and typically live in a bubble.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:47 pm to Epic Cajun
Dude it is a good job for 90% of the population. Most aren't going to be engineers, doctors, lawyers, accountants and I know plenty of teachers that got tired of being poor and are now operators.
Operations at a good plant is a damn good career, you and I have better options, but most don't. Or if they do they can't make the money to provide to lifestyle they want doing that. It can be hard on kids and family in general but overall it's a damn good job.
Now would I want to do it, frick no. I hate Turnarounds enough as it is.
Operations at a good plant is a damn good career, you and I have better options, but most don't. Or if they do they can't make the money to provide to lifestyle they want doing that. It can be hard on kids and family in general but overall it's a damn good job.
Now would I want to do it, frick no. I hate Turnarounds enough as it is.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:48 pm to RealityTiger
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That tool (Mingo is his name O) is downvoting every reply you and I make now
The only post I've down voted in the thread is the one I'm replying to because you're being a snowflake. If I knew down votes hurt your feeling so bad I would have been down voting all of you and your shift work buddies posts.
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