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re: What are Your Views of Conscientious Objectors/Pacifists?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:29 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:29 pm to TigerFanInSouthland

Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:29 pm to Tunasntigers92
He did his part and more. Although, I can't blame the guys in his company for wanting him not there at first.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:29 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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So you wouldn't have been cool with the draft in WWII? The only time the country was attacked was Pearl Harbor and that wasn't even a state yet.
You don't consider 9-11-01 as our country being attacked?
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:32 pm to samson73103
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You don't consider 9-11-01 as our country being attacked?
Yeah, I do.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:36 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I respect groups like the Quakers and the Amish. They have a deep religious belief which instructs them that killing other human beings is wrong, no matter the reason. They serve their Lord before their country and I can't criticize them for that.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:00 pm to northshorebamaman
CO who serves in medical corps. A+
I accept that there are legit pacifists who do not want to facilitate warfare.
I accept that there are legit pacifists who do not want to facilitate warfare.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:00 pm to SCLibertarian
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I respect groups like the Quakers and the Amish. They have a deep religious belief which instructs them that killing other human beings is wrong, no matter the reason. They serve their Lord before their country and I can't criticize them for that.
I can understand that and respect that, I just can't get how when thousands of your own countrymen are dying or god forbid somebody in your family is about to get killed in front of you, how can you just let that happen?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:02 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
We have not had the case of war on our shores.
The islamic fundamentalists killed all the buddhists on the eastern shore of india. "Plucked like ripe cherries".
The islamic fundamentalists killed all the buddhists on the eastern shore of india. "Plucked like ripe cherries".
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:02 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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I just can't get how when thousands of your own countrymen are dying or god forbid somebody in your family is about to get killed in front of you, how can you just let that happen?
what experience do you have with this?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:03 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
They should be left alone. Conscription is the government stealing the labor of its citizens instead of paying market price.
If there is a true existential threat to the country, there will be enough volunteers, and if not, our society doesn't deserve to survive.
If there is a true existential threat to the country, there will be enough volunteers, and if not, our society doesn't deserve to survive.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:57 pm to cgrand
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what experience do you have with this?
I don't, that's why I'm saying I don't understand it.
What experience do you have with it since you ask.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:07 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:our country is under attack right now
Me personally, I believe if your home, country, family are under attack or threatened to be under attack and you don't take a stand or do something to help your cause that you're selfish.
and youre posting on the interwebs
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:13 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
if you have not had the experience then how can you offer an opinion?
you'll notice that I did not
your country was attacked 16 yrs ago and many non combatants were murdered in cold blood. why didn't you enlist? that's the closest your country has come to war on its shores since 1941
you'll notice that I did not
your country was attacked 16 yrs ago and many non combatants were murdered in cold blood. why didn't you enlist? that's the closest your country has come to war on its shores since 1941
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:14 pm to OWLFAN86
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our country is under attack right now
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OWLFAN86
Yeah, by your people.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:16 pm to cgrand
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your country was attacked 16 yrs ago and many non combatants were murdered in cold blood. why didn't you enlist?
16 years ago I was 8, so I couldn't have enlisted. Don't worry though, I did enlist 4 years ago.
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if you have not had the experience then how can you offer an opinion?
Idk, how much shite do you opine on that you haven't experienced? Do you have an opinion on WWII or Vietnam? How about abortion or climate change? What is your experience in any of those things?
The thought that you have to have the experience to have an opinion is asinine.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:29 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Idk, how much shite do you opine on that you haven't experienced?
None
I recognize that until I experience the need to make a decision I cannot judge the decisions of others
as for WWII I'm glad we won, whether I'd have fought without a draft I have no idea
Vietnam I wish had never happened, whether I'd have fought if drafted I have no idea
abortion, I have experience with
climate change I have experience with
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:35 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
There's a movie coming out of a CO that was a medic in WWII and came out a hero.
Hard to look into someone's heart, but my belief is that if you feel that way leave the country you are living in and go somewhere else.
Hard to look into someone's heart, but my belief is that if you feel that way leave the country you are living in and go somewhere else.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:47 pm to cgrand
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abortion, I have experience with
You've had an abortion? Or are a doctor that performs abortions?
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climate change I have experience with
You're a climatologist or any other -ist that has to do with that area of expertise?
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None I recognize that until I experience the need to make a decision I cannot judge the decisions of others
Then why are you on this site? Where everybody voices there opinions on various matters whether they have expertise on the subjects or not.
You might be the most boring poster on here if you are so afraid to opine on topics.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:51 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
If they are like the Hacksaw Ridge guy they are better men than me or anybody else on here.
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