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re: What are your thoughts on people who commit suicide?
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:39 pm to 13SaintTiger
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:39 pm to 13SaintTiger
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This isn't my first rodeo and the more it happens the more I'm left with thinking of the family members left behind.
It doesn't matter how many rodeos you've been to. Thinking poorly of the person who reaches that point -- where they feel that killing themselves is a legitimate answer to their problems -- is just a diversion. It is our own mental gymnastics to avoid a deeper realization that someone can actually feel that way, and accepting that in some cases nothing will stop them.
All we can do is to be there for family members, and to be there for anyone who might feel that way about themselves and their situations.
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:40 pm to 13SaintTiger
Honestly, very sorry you experienced that...I had a coworker commit suicide in my office one day while I was at lunch. Initially, I had all of the same thoughts while trying to make sense of it all. Eventually, I realized that it is just not possible to make sense of it, because it goes completely against one of our strongest instincts...that of survival. As I see it, there is almost never an instance where a rational person would make that decision.
End of it all, my friend was gone and his family was left alone in the world...and that is a pretty sad situation regardless of the cause.
End of it all, my friend was gone and his family was left alone in the world...and that is a pretty sad situation regardless of the cause.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:45 pm to fr33manator
Even when you know it isn't permanent...it still FEELS like a downward spiral.
The sails go slack, the storms come and you start to sink. Even if you know land is out there, all you can see is the immediate situation
Exactly. One problem exists and it leads to another and another until you cant help it anymore. I am going to a counselor tomorrow and am praying to get some answers as to why i feel this way.
The sails go slack, the storms come and you start to sink. Even if you know land is out there, all you can see is the immediate situation
Exactly. One problem exists and it leads to another and another until you cant help it anymore. I am going to a counselor tomorrow and am praying to get some answers as to why i feel this way.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:48 pm to 13SaintTiger
Because of the mental issue I have (a form of OCD that causes repetitive unwanted or intrusive thoughts about things I fear actually happening) I have a much different opinion than I used to. I think it is a bad decision and it is a terrible situation all around. I understand that some folks get so down in the hole they cannot see out. I personally have "felt" like suicide would happen to me. Almost an inevitablility but I've never actually been in any danger of suicide. It was always my mind actually fearing it. To be in a place so dark that you truly want to go through with it is a scary scary thought to me. So sad all around.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:48 pm to 13SaintTiger
As a person who has dealt with the issue firsthand, it is absolutely horrific and devastating to the entire family.
My BIL did it 2 days before my son's 2nd birthday party. FIL called, and I took the call. Had to tell my wife the terrible news because he couldn't.
MIL came home from work, there was a suit hanging up in the living room with a note that said "I'm sorry". Door to his room was blocked by a dresser, and it took some time to get in.
Fast forward 15 years...pain is a little less, but still there. He was clinically depressed, looking back. Everyone did some soul-searching asking why didn't we see the signs. There was an attempt at an "intervention" some time prior, but he didn't follow through with the help.
Sad thing is, my son has a strong resemblance to my BIL, so there's always a reminder of him.
Sorry for the wall of text. This is something I feel strongly about.
My BIL did it 2 days before my son's 2nd birthday party. FIL called, and I took the call. Had to tell my wife the terrible news because he couldn't.
MIL came home from work, there was a suit hanging up in the living room with a note that said "I'm sorry". Door to his room was blocked by a dresser, and it took some time to get in.
Fast forward 15 years...pain is a little less, but still there. He was clinically depressed, looking back. Everyone did some soul-searching asking why didn't we see the signs. There was an attempt at an "intervention" some time prior, but he didn't follow through with the help.
Sad thing is, my son has a strong resemblance to my BIL, so there's always a reminder of him.
Sorry for the wall of text. This is something I feel strongly about.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:49 pm to 13SaintTiger
Selfish
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:50 pm to windshieldman
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Pretty sure your family would be better off if you committed suicide
frick you, you pos.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:51 pm to 13SaintTiger
Each suicide is as unique as the person who committed the act. Blanket judgments for or against are insufficient in this matter.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:53 pm to shoelessjoe
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I am going to a counselor tomorrow and am praying to get some answers as to why i feel this way.
Please keep that appointment.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:58 pm to Darla Hood
I am. Actually looking forward to hearing from someone who can help me. Another thing people dont understand is what depression does to the individuals family. My wife doesnt even want to discuss it with me.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:06 pm to shoelessjoe
I'm with Darla...please keep that appointment. Ask for all the help you can.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:11 pm to 13SaintTiger
He probably made a comment about that Paige chic and got a kys response...so he did
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:13 pm to 75503Tiger
You're a prick
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:16 pm to BasilFawlty
My father in law had undiagnosed PTSD from his time as a Marine in Vietnam.
He was a great man and a loving father and husband. He shot himself the week before his only grandchild's (my son's) first birthday.
My initial reaction was to be angry and label him a coward. However, my wife and I educated ourselves on mental illness and suicide and now I just feel sad that he was in so much pain and felt so hopeless.
He was such an incredible guy and we miss him every day.
There a great article I read a couple years ago about people who survived suicide attempts. It gives great insight into the rationale of the person. It was eye opening. I'll post a link if I can track it down.
He was a great man and a loving father and husband. He shot himself the week before his only grandchild's (my son's) first birthday.
My initial reaction was to be angry and label him a coward. However, my wife and I educated ourselves on mental illness and suicide and now I just feel sad that he was in so much pain and felt so hopeless.
He was such an incredible guy and we miss him every day.
There a great article I read a couple years ago about people who survived suicide attempts. It gives great insight into the rationale of the person. It was eye opening. I'll post a link if I can track it down.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:16 pm to shoelessjoe
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Another thing people dont understand is what depression does to the individuals family. My wife doesnt even want to discuss it with me.
Yea a lot of people take the "ignore it and it will go away" route instead of dealing with the person and helping them. That's the wrong way to go about it.
You need to find someone willing to help you and fight with you no matter if that's your wife or someone else IMO.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:23 pm to 13SaintTiger
Outside of certain death, I refuse to accept it. Life is just too precious, and too many people don't get to live out their lives.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:25 pm to stout
At some point, you have to stop helping. I've been there, and I just couldn't bring her back, and she brought me down with her. You can only handle someone texting you suicidal thoughts and blaming them on you for so long.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:37 pm to 13SaintTiger
Permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:51 pm to 13SaintTiger
No winners here.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:53 pm to 13SaintTiger
The one you hate the most is the one you hurt the least.
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