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Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:50 pm to tigerdup07
make sure that the kid is using as much of his wrist as possible during long toss. spin it.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 2:59 pm to Chicken
Very helpful. Should longtoss up to 90 yards at that age. Maybe more. 3-5 days per week. Do that for 6 weeks then take a break for 2 weeks. There shouldn't be any bullpens or games in the fall.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:00 pm to ell_13
He is playing football and the basketball. We have typically done little to no baseball from July to December. Trying to change things a bit this offseason.
It will be hard to find free time to work on baseball this fall and winter but we will try (if he is willing...i won't be forcing him).
It will be hard to find free time to work on baseball this fall and winter but we will try (if he is willing...i won't be forcing him).
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:11 pm to Chicken
I think it's great he's playing multiple sports as long as he's enjoying them. Kids should never be forced to focus on one sport as early as they are these days.
Is he doing any type of workout for football or basketball? I'm asking because football workouts tend to focus on bulk specifically of the chest and legs. And that's fine as long as he's doing what he can to remain flexible and working as much back as he does chest. Basketball is less worrisome since you need flexibility there and coaches typically focus on that.
If you can only fit in throwing 2 days a week that's fine. 1 day of long toss (max 120 ft) with 10-15 throws at that distance and another day maxing out at 90 ft, then it should help his arm strength without overworking him. Just remember to work your way up to those distances especially if he hasn't thrown in a while. And the focus this time of year should be on mechanics as you increase the distance... maintaining fluid motion instead of just going through the motions just because it's offseason.
Is he doing any type of workout for football or basketball? I'm asking because football workouts tend to focus on bulk specifically of the chest and legs. And that's fine as long as he's doing what he can to remain flexible and working as much back as he does chest. Basketball is less worrisome since you need flexibility there and coaches typically focus on that.
If you can only fit in throwing 2 days a week that's fine. 1 day of long toss (max 120 ft) with 10-15 throws at that distance and another day maxing out at 90 ft, then it should help his arm strength without overworking him. Just remember to work your way up to those distances especially if he hasn't thrown in a while. And the focus this time of year should be on mechanics as you increase the distance... maintaining fluid motion instead of just going through the motions just because it's offseason.
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:18 pm to ell_13
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or throwing as hard as you can but throwing through a target without getting a ton of height under the ball.
these two things literally are the same
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:23 pm to bmy
You've obviously never coached 13 year olds. They think throwing as hard as they can is getting as much height and distance as possible which doesn't get the ball from point A to B as fast as possible. What I'm saying is get only as far as 120 feet and throw through that target. Should only max out at 90% effort if you're "long tossing" using your legs.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:43 pm to ell_13
You are correct.
3 days a week. Properly warm up before starting. Limit his throws, not his time.
Start at a distance where he will long hop the person catching it. Crow hop, use your legs, throw, repeat.
Start him at 30 throws then build up.
3 days a week. Properly warm up before starting. Limit his throws, not his time.
Start at a distance where he will long hop the person catching it. Crow hop, use your legs, throw, repeat.
Start him at 30 throws then build up.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:55 pm to Chicken
Helpful. We did it multiple ways. With a crow hop, feet planted and regular.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:57 pm to Chicken
Helpful
Posted on 8/13/15 at 3:58 pm to Chicken
Very helpful. Made me throw much harder.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 4:01 pm to Darth_Vader
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And before I did any of that, I'd have them stretch really good.
Never have then stretch cold. They need to at least do some jogging beforehand. Preferably they can get some sort of warm up in like light toss or band work
Posted on 8/13/15 at 4:23 pm to Chicken
Since he is playing other sports I would just try to throw with him whenever and not have a set schedule. End the pitch and catch with some long toss if and only if his arm isn't hurting.
Him being able to throw the ball farther will come mainly with maturity and getting stronger. We (outfielders) used to long toss with every warm up at the start of practice freshman and sophomore year of hs and I would always end up coating my arm in icy hot and lobbing the ball super high (pointless).
I played football and soccer in the off season. Once I started becoming a man (junior and senior year) is when my arm strength increased and I never needed icy hot again for the pain.
ETA: Teach him a proper crow hop
Him being able to throw the ball farther will come mainly with maturity and getting stronger. We (outfielders) used to long toss with every warm up at the start of practice freshman and sophomore year of hs and I would always end up coating my arm in icy hot and lobbing the ball super high (pointless).
I played football and soccer in the off season. Once I started becoming a man (junior and senior year) is when my arm strength increased and I never needed icy hot again for the pain.
ETA: Teach him a proper crow hop
This post was edited on 8/13/15 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 8/13/15 at 4:32 pm to Chicken
stretching
obviously the arm but LEGS,LEGS ,LEGS
make sure the footwork is correct when longtossing
players get lazy and toss with all arm and that's when you can cause injury
also hydrate
obviously the arm but LEGS,LEGS ,LEGS
make sure the footwork is correct when longtossing
players get lazy and toss with all arm and that's when you can cause injury
also hydrate
Posted on 8/13/15 at 4:36 pm to Chicken
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He is playing football and the basketball. We have typically done little to no baseball from July to December. Trying to change things a bit this offseason.
Get that baw in the gym. Refrain from squats; being he is so young.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 5:02 pm to Chicken
Helpful regardless of age as long if done right
Posted on 8/13/15 at 5:08 pm to Dupont3
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Should longtoss up to 90 yards at that age. Maybe more.
Damn dude
Posted on 8/13/15 at 5:22 pm to Dupont3
quote:That's 180 feet... for 13, definitely not. 3-5 days per week in the offseason? I really hope you're joking at this point.
Should longtoss up to 90 yards at that age. Maybe more. 3-5 days per week. Do that for 6 weeks then take a break for 2 weeks. There shouldn't be any bullpens or games in the fall.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 5:37 pm to Chicken
Long toss (not every practice) is one of the few ways to increase arm strength. My pitching coach in college spent 8 years coaching at the pro level, and he was very much for it as well.
Posted on 8/13/15 at 5:40 pm to BoogaBear
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Start at a distance where he will long hop the person catching it. Crow hop, use your legs, throw, repeat
Exactly this as well. The idea is to throw it long and high to stretch the arm. As long as they can throw on a 1 hop is normal from my experience.
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