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re: "We've been telling kids for 15 years to learn to code, now AI is coming for the coders."

Posted on 1/18/26 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10296 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 5:17 pm to
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So what happens to most of the American workforce?


Gig work, working for said contractors
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8918 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:08 pm to
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I've mentioned this secret before. Half of coders can't code. They do other things like test, or paperwork, or "scrum master", they write reports, they go to meetings. But they actually can't put together working software. We need more working software in the world, a lot more. There are many deep algos that need to be worked on, especially in AI. AI is going to reap those low skill SW Devs. The rest will be fine, better than fine


This is accurate. I’ve interviewed hundreds of software engineers. Most can’t code at all. They can fake it well enough by parroting buzzwords. But make them write a little code and they fall flat. I’ve had several just walk out.

As mentioned by this post, may do ancillary jobs that will be replaced by AI.


Different note, listened to an Alan Watts talk where he spoke to IBM engineers about 60 years ago. To me this talk drew many parallels with what I’m seeing today with the use of technology vs human creativity. Worth a listen and reflection to what’s going on with AI.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7915 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:28 pm to
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Different note, listened to an Alan Watts talk where he spoke to IBM engineers about 60 years ago. To me this talk drew many parallels with what I’m seeing today with the use of technology vs human creativity. Worth a listen and reflection to what’s going on with AI.


I'll have to give it a listen!

The higher I've climbed the harder it is to find time to actually write software, but it's critical, I know far too many people who have "out grown" the core skills, they spend their days on LinkedIn, expounding on things that they read about but have never done, or if they've done, only briefly in a sandbox.

It's hard as once a solution is developed, it goes off to younger devs who start chewing up the piece parts, one can spend a whole career by developing solutions and then handing it off to be implemented, but my fear is always that at some point my actual knowledge becomes outdated and I become a "theoretical knowledge" only guy.

That said theoretical knowledge is incredibly valuable, e.g. Watts is still relevant today.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5535 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:31 pm to
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Mike Rowe



An opera singer cosplaying as a leader of tradesmen while being paid 300k per speaking arrangements by Blackrock to promote the "lucrative" trades.


Dude is a class A charlatan.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5535 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:35 pm to
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choose between going to college or going to trade school then you don’t plan on being a tradesman your whole life.





Yes, thee old "encourage kids to go become tradesmen so hopefully they are the 3% that transform into successful business owners by the time they are 40"

Brilliant!
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13218 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:37 pm to
We don’t have enough electricians or lineman now. The demand is high for many reasons. The data center bubble is a big one. I know there will be gas units built in the next few years. If a kid wanted to get into a trade now is the time.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4936 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 8:41 pm to
I guess heavy equipment operator qualifies as a trade.I thought that’s what I wanted to for a living.Went in Navy,asked for E.O Mos and got it.
Went to A school and some B schools to learn how to operate all kinds of equipment.
I enjoyed the schools and doing some different things in the Navy.
Got out and went to work running an earthmover.2 weeks of that,I said frick this,I’ve got the G.I.bill I’m going to college.Quit and went and registered for nursing school.Did that for 35 years.

Running equipment,for a company was different,Navy wasn’t trying to make a profit.
Running that machine was boring as hell,going in a big circle.Pick up a load of dirt here,drop it over there.Over and over,work 12 hours a day7 days a week when weather allowed.

Nursing was a tough job but it was rarely boring.Weather was always nice,A C in the summer,heat in the winter.Lot’s of eye candy in a hospital.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86169 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 8:44 pm to
Yeah, I made this argument here last month and all the coders rushed in to tell me they were AWKUALLY irreplaceable. It's coming guys. I'm coping by learning how to build a lean-to and grow potatoes.
Posted by jlsufan
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
407 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:42 pm to
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Yep, keeps popping up and it's usually by people that do not understand AI.

Here's a great analogy.

Good "coders" are basically Tony Stark
AI is the iron man suit

Tony by himself can get a lot done.
Iron man suit by itself kind of sucks.
Tony + iron man suit = gets a lot of shite done

Good coders are going no where. Offshore button clickers are.




but the problem is now you only need 1 Tony Stark to replace what previously was 5
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 9:47 pm
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7337 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:47 am to
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but the problem is now you only need 1 Tony Stark to replace what previously was 5


Exactly but most people outside of the industry think that means we don't need coders anymore. The reality is we won't need junior level coders anymore, which was already being replaced with offshore.

Good coders, who provide and design solutions are going no where. If you're a requirements reading button clicker, yep you're screwed.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3411 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 6:13 am to
Well you gave all the coding jobs to H1B farms first. So don’t pretend like AI is what broke this market.
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