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re: ‘We’re the Only Plane in the Sky’
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:55 pm to AA77
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:55 pm to AA77
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Gordon Johndroe: I don’t really remember eating, but the stewards put out some sandwiches and chips. The Air Force bills you for your meals aboard Air Force One, through the White House Military Office. I remember a couple days later getting a bill for $9.18. The bill said for meals on September 11th between Sarasota-Barksdale, Barksdale-Offutt, Offutt-Washington.
never knew that, kind of funny
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:57 pm to OweO
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I will go out on a limb and say that it's something they keep stocked when the president uses AF1, just in case... Something like.. 9/11 happens.
don't go too far out on that limb of yours dumbass
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:59 pm to HerkFlyer
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Acadiana regional
yeah edited after I reread your post, Alec for Cajun's landing, hmmm, that how you met Mrs. Herk?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:03 pm to AA77
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We’re the Only Plane in the Sky
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escorted by three F-16 fighters
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:07 pm to 777Tiger
not quite, but she is from there. If she had met me then it would have been all on my charming personality as my physique was, shall we say, lacking. I did used to slip screen shots from fbohotties.com into briefs. I’m sure I’d get an EO complaint for that now. ETA: Jesus, FBOhotties.com is gone.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:09 pm to HerkFlyer
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I’m sure I’d get an EO complaint for that now.
oh hell yes
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I did used to slip screen shots from fbohotties.com into briefs
and they enjoyed the hell out of those
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:15 pm to HerkFlyer
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I can say with 99% certainty they are not. They're pretty much a standard 747-200 airframe with 747-400 avionics and engines.
I'm not an expert but what little I've read on AF1's is that they are no where close to being standard. They have a lot of things that are added on for safety like flares and chaff, ability to refuel in the air, etc. But additionally they are not designed around carrying passengers with luggage. With only 70 passengers instead of 400+ and no luggage I'd imagine they would be a lot lighter?
The ability to take off and land on shorter runways is actually quite huge. It allows access to a lot more areas, a lot less restrictions.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:15 pm to 777Tiger
If it hasn’t been mentioned yet in this thread, Ari Fleischer has been tweeting his first hand account from inside Air Force One from that day, all day today. Actually a very interesting read.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:16 pm to meaux5
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If it hasn’t been mentioned yet in this thread, Ari Fleischer has been tweeting his first hand account from inside Air Force One from that day, all day today. Actually a very interesting read.
I think he does this every anniversarry. Always a good and insightful look into that day.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:18 pm to baldona
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The ability to take off and land on shorter runways is actually quite huge. It allows access to a lot more areas, a lot less restrictions.
the 747 is a pretty high performing aircraft, as Herk said, getting out of Dodge is no problem as they can hit a tanker very shortly afterwards, any time it's close to max landing weight, available concrete isn't a major issue
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:28 pm to HerkFlyer
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FBOhotties.com
i will have to ask my mom about this! she worked at million air at lakefront back in the day.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:29 pm to baldona
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flares and chaff
I was referring to a performance standpoint vs. countermeasures
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With only 70 passengers instead of 400+ and no luggage I'd imagine they would be a lot lighter?
Good point, I can't say for sure though. There are tons of variables that can affect AF1's basic operating weight(doesn't include payload) vs an airline type 747. I'd really be talking out of my arse trying to comment beyond that.
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The ability to take off and land on shorter runways is actually quite huge. It allows access to a lot more areas, a lot less restrictions.
I'm all too familiar with this doctrine
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:32 pm to HerkFlyer
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I'm all too familiar with this doctrine
I'd say so too
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:41 pm to 777Tiger
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I'd say so too
Way more so than Air Force One, but not quite as much as good destinations for a snack-n-back.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:48 pm to HerkFlyer
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but not quite as much as good destinations for a snack-n-back.
got to take a peek in AF1 once, they were just starting to show me around when somebody gets the call, "Elvis has cut the trip short, you! GTFO, NOW!!!" flew a Herk sim at JRB Carswell the other day, did a couple of t and gs on a carrier off a carrier docked in SAN, different Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:58 pm to 777Tiger
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got to take a peek in AF1 once, they were just starting to show me around when somebody gets the call, "Elvis has cut the trip short, you! GTFO, NOW!!!"
That's awesome. I saw one of them from a distance once, at Barksdale I think(not on 9/11). I would jump at the opportunity to tour it.
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JRB Carswel
I've got several buddies in the TX Guard unit there.
I'd venture a guess that sim is run by the Navy?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:21 pm to TigahTeeth
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Where did they get 70 lunches and 25lbs of bananas on such short notice?
I’m not positive but I think it was Barksdale. I grew up close by and we were told a few days after that they landed there and loaded AF1 with food.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:34 pm to BilJ
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Gordon Johndroe: I don’t really remember eating, but the stewards put out some sandwiches and chips. The Air Force bills you for your meals aboard Air Force One, through the White House Military Office. I remember a couple days later getting a bill for $9.18. The bill said for meals on September 11th between Sarasota-Barksdale, Barksdale-Offutt, Offutt-Washington.
never knew that, kind of funny
In addition to meals all of the press, and even friends of the president are billed the equivalent of a first class airline ticket for the trip when flying aboard AF1.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:58 pm to HerkFlyer
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I'd venture a guess that sim is run by the Navy?
yeah, it's Navy, they've got two Herks and a Hornet sim, flew that one around a bit too, told my buddy, who is a Herk driver to get back in his sim and turn on the formation lights and we'd join up on the way to the area
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