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Posted on 8/3/21 at 6:43 pm to fr33manator
I think a far more interesting project would be to start them off with primitive tools and technology, but let them use whatever technology they wanted--- so long as the tools they start with were from the 13th century.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:06 pm to NYNolaguy1
So as long as they started out with 13th century tools they could build whatever other tools they wanted?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:47 pm to fr33manator
what does this have to do with covid?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:37 pm to floyd of pink
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what does this have to do with covid?
The people in those times had to deal with actual plagues?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 9:30 pm to fr33manator
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So as long as they started out with 13th century tools they could build whatever other tools they wanted?
Yes exactly.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:56 pm to NYNolaguy1
I wonder how far they could get without combustion? Or would even known about combustion allow them to piece something together?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:20 pm to fr33manator
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wonder how far they could get without combustion? Or would even known about combustion allow them to piece something together?
Yeah, I mean how far can the average worker go technology wise starting with modern science but primitive tools?
Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:32 am to NYNolaguy1
I just did a rewatch of this and learned that the term “pothole” comes from potters that would dig for clay, to make their pots with, at the bottom of the deep cart ruts.
Thus those that drove the carts came to call them “potholes”
I learn new stuff every time I watch this. Can’t recommend enough
Thus those that drove the carts came to call them “potholes”
I learn new stuff every time I watch this. Can’t recommend enough
Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:41 am to upgrayedd
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I've gone down a massive rabbit hole watching this crew do everything from build castles to living like people in Tudor England to living in the UK during the Blitz. Very interesting show all around.
I'm a huge dork and love historical doc type stuff, especially farming. I love these guys work. I think I have watched them all.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:08 am to fr33manator
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I fully believe that man had the same (or greater) intelligence as modern man possesses. We’ve just been standing on so many shoulders and using the same basic techniques for millennia.
I think this is a pretty safe assumption. From an evolutionary standpoint, a few hundred years is nothing. We are taller today, and probably fatter, but I doubt our intellectual capacity has changed significantly.
Our ability to pass knowledge down through generations, particularly in written form, is what sets us apart as a species. Aristotle paved the way for Newton. Newton paved the way for Einstein.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:14 am to NYNolaguy1
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Yeah, I mean how far can the average worker go technology wise starting with modern science but primitive tools?
I think this is an interesting premise, because the collective knowledge gained over the years has led to a change in the collective skills required to get shite done.
In other words, it would be an interesting exercise in determining the value of craftsmanship.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:56 am to fr33manator
I can’t find it right now, but a few years ago I saw a documentary on Caesars bridge across the Rhine. His army constructed it I 10 days. His 40,000 man army crossed it and found te Gauls had retreated so he burned some local villages and then crossed the bridge and destroyed them after they were on the other side.
The documentary was of a group of men with modern equipment trying to repeat the task. They failed miserably.
10 days to construct such a bridge that crosses a river up to 30’ deep that 40,000 troops can March across is an incredible feat by anyone. And then to tear it down 8 days later is crazy. But I understand why he couldn’t leave it. And it only has a few pages in his journal is amazing and something I don’t know if could be repeated.
The documentary was of a group of men with modern equipment trying to repeat the task. They failed miserably.
10 days to construct such a bridge that crosses a river up to 30’ deep that 40,000 troops can March across is an incredible feat by anyone. And then to tear it down 8 days later is crazy. But I understand why he couldn’t leave it. And it only has a few pages in his journal is amazing and something I don’t know if could be repeated.
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:18 am to Sao
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Cold fusion
That's not past electricity. The next quantum leap in technology will come from discovering high-temperature super-conductors as that will have enormous implications for computing, infrastructure, and electrical generation with current technologies. We have no issues generating all the electrical power we want but vast quantities are wasted into heat. Now, there is an argument that if we achieve a nuclear power source that can provide GW's to TW's of electricty from a cheap and abundant fuel source then we won't need to care how much is lost in transmission and usage.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:18 am to lostinbr
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In other words, it would be an interesting exercise in determining the value of craftsmanship
Woodworkers and masons today may use tools powered by different means and have far more speed and power behind them, but if you look, they are still using the same basic tools and techniques as craftsmen 1000 years ago.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:30 am to fr33manator
This thread has reminded me of something I had thought about before.
The thought of humans being equally or more intelligent in years past is somewhat fascinating. I believe it is possible. I’m sure there were people all throughout history that possessed certain aptitudes for fields in which they had absolutely no exposure to. Some people seem to be naturally good at certain things in life.
The thought of humans being equally or more intelligent in years past is somewhat fascinating. I believe it is possible. I’m sure there were people all throughout history that possessed certain aptitudes for fields in which they had absolutely no exposure to. Some people seem to be naturally good at certain things in life.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:43 am to sparkinator
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I saw a documentary on Caesars bridge across the Rhine. His army constructed it I 10 days. His 40,000 man army crossed it and found te Gauls had retreated so he burned some local villages and then crossed the bridge and destroyed them after they were on the other side.
I am by no means a historian, not even a hobbyist of history. But from what I understand, that’s what made the Romans so great. Their army was good, but their engineering was amazing.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 11:57 am to lostinbr
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I think this is a pretty safe assumption. From an evolutionary standpoint, a few hundred years is nothing. We are taller today, and probably fatter, but I doubt our intellectual capacity has changed significantly.
I agree diet and environmental factors would be the only difference, not evolution. But if diet can already alter average height, then might brain size and/or brain activity also be affected?
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