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Went to a funeral yesterday where mlilitary honors were rendered
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:23 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:23 am
Three man detail, a CPL, a SGT, and a bugler who was off to the side, whose rank I didn't see. The CPL was in charge of the detail and giving orders to the other two. I thought that was unusual and kind of interesting.
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:26 am to Jim Rockford
Fun fact, the buglers almost never actually play the bugle. There's a speaker inside that plays the song at the push of a button. A former coworker had bugle duty for funeral details and said he and the other buglers would just hit the button and pretend to play. He said one old man came up to him after his service and said that the playing was beautiful and brought him to tears 
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 12:27 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:28 am to Carson123987
Yeah it's pretty obvious that it's recorded, but they've cut back military bands so much there just aren't many buglers available.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:36 am to Jim Rockford
Last funeral I went to was a military funeral and it was pretty much the same. They had the recorded bugle too. It was 3 old vets from the VFW that handled it. I didnt catch their ranks.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:38 am to Jim Rockford
I went to one in Houston not too long ago. The deceased had been cremated and it was a memorial service inside a funeral home. At the conclusion of the ceremony, the honor guard went outside to the parking lot, leaving the door to the funeral home open, and fired a three-volley salute. I'm not sure how kindly the neighbors take to these ceremonies.
This was an Air Force service and there were four members of the honor guard who were all young and appeared to be active duty.
The saddest one I ever attended was at the national cemetery in Pensacola when there were only three people in attendance besides the priest and the honor guard and one of them was the deceased's real estate agent.
This was an Air Force service and there were four members of the honor guard who were all young and appeared to be active duty.
The saddest one I ever attended was at the national cemetery in Pensacola when there were only three people in attendance besides the priest and the honor guard and one of them was the deceased's real estate agent.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 1:45 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:57 am to Carson123987
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Fun fact, the buglers almost never actually play the bugle. There's a speaker inside that plays the song at the push of a button. A former coworker had bugle duty for funeral details and said he and the other buglers would just hit the button and pretend to play.
That is the subject (partially) of this piece which Fox News Sunday replays every year for Memorial Day:
Bugles Across America
Posted on 8/3/16 at 3:09 am to Jim Rockford
I used to be on honor guard in the Army. The two man detail (we referred to it as a two man detail because the bugler is a member of the band, not the honor guard) is available for anyone who was honorably discharged and is the ceremony we performed most often. We usually did several of those a day compared to full honors, which we did a few times a week. About half the time we had an actual bugler, other times we had the speaker in a fake bugle thing, and sometimes we just had a hidden boombox and a guy pretending to play. Too few buglers to cover all the ceremonies.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 3:13 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 3:12 am to northshorebamaman
I just thought it was interesting that the lower ranking man was in charge of the detail. Maybe he had done it before and the other guy hadn't.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 3:14 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 3:16 am to Jim Rockford
Yeah, the SGT was probably new.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 3:31 am to Carson123987
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Fun fact, the buglers almost never actually play the bugle.
I wouldn't say almost never. If active army is doing it you will probably get a recording for a two man detail, but I've never done a full honors or active duty funeral that didn't have an actual bugler. We even brought bagpipes players for MPs.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 4:10 am to northshorebamaman
The CPL handed the widow the flag. She was an elderly lady. She reached out and hugged him and he almost lost it but recovered.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 4:48 am to Jim Rockford
Billet over rank brah...
Posted on 8/3/16 at 5:46 am to Jim Rockford
My grandfather had a detail when he passed. I play trumpet and i knew immediately that the bugler wasn't really playing. The detail was awesome and really amazing to watch.
The Sgt in charge of the detail approached my dad and grandmother after and told them that when they heard my grandfather was a WWII vet and was being buried on Memorial Day, they decided to honor him by giving him the flag that flew above their HQ when their unit from FT Polk was deployed to Iraq. All 3 guys seemed to really be interested in honoring him because there aren't many WWII vets still around.
The Sgt in charge of the detail approached my dad and grandmother after and told them that when they heard my grandfather was a WWII vet and was being buried on Memorial Day, they decided to honor him by giving him the flag that flew above their HQ when their unit from FT Polk was deployed to Iraq. All 3 guys seemed to really be interested in honoring him because there aren't many WWII vets still around.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:32 am to elprez00
We had it graveside for my father a WWII combat veteran. They were from Fort Polk and active and a real bugler. They did tell me about some have a recording because of how many they have to do. Drove to BR for it and was greatly appreciated as my father was proud of his service and it was a fitting departure.
We had a Masonic ceremony as well at the service. Another very nice ceremony.
We had a Masonic ceremony as well at the service. Another very nice ceremony.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:49 am to Carson123987
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Fun fact, the buglers almost never actually play the bugle
This has been an issue for awhile; just not enough of them. Most of the public doesn't know (it hasn't been a secret BTW).
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:55 am to Martini
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They were from Fort Polk and active and a real bugler.
He lied to you then. I did funeral honors through the Fort Polk office. Every detail that went out had a bugle with a speaker in it.
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They did tell me about some have a recording because of how many they have to do.
Another lie. They use the speaker because the casualty affairs office doesn't want Taps messed up. The "Bugler" can be any MOS. So you can have anything from a Infantryman to a Medic playing it.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 6:56 am to carhartt
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Another lie. They use the speaker because the casualty affairs office doesn't want Taps messed up. The "Bugler" can be any MOS. So you can have anything from a Infantryman to a Medic playing it.
So if the First Trumpet in the post band goes out, he fakes it too?
ETA: Not being sarcastic, just asking.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 6:57 am
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:01 am to Jim Rockford
I remember playing taps at a funeral and the speaker died halfway through the song. One time the speaker fell out while I was playing. That shite was embarrassing.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:04 am to Jim Rockford
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So if the First Trumpet in the post band goes out, he fakes it too? ETA: Not being sarcastic, just asking.
The Post Band is different. That's thoses guys MOS/job. What they joined the Army to do. Funeral Honors is a detail that's tasked out to every Company on Post. The Casualty Affairs Office give basic training on how to do the Honors, i.e. each members place, movement and what to say and do. But you still only have 3 random soldiers doing it.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:06 am to LewDawg
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I remember playing taps at a funeral and the speaker died halfway through the song.
Same thing happened to us. It sucked. We had to make up some excuse why the guy didn't finish playing. From then on, I made sure we had a new battery for every funeral.
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