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re: Welfare was not meant to be a career - true story

Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:38 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:38 am to
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Wage stagnation parallels the war on poverty.



It also parallels the decline in the top income tax bracket.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:42 am to
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It also parallels the decline in the top income tax bracket.


No it doesn't. JFK was the major player in tax reform, long before the stagnation of lower level wages.

No one paid super high taxes anyway regardless of bracket.
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There is a common misconception that high-income Americans are not paying much in taxes compared to what they used to. Proponents of this view often point to the 1950s, when the top federal income tax rate was 91 percent for most of the decade.[1] However, despite these high marginal rates, the top 1 percent of taxpayers in the 1950s only paid about 42 percent of their income in taxes. As a result, the tax burden on high-income households today is only slightly lower than what these households faced in the 1950s.


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Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:53 am to
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JFK was the major player in tax reform, long before the stagnation of lower level wages.



The War On Poverty you cited was an offshoot of the JFK administration, and you yourself cited that as the moment wage stagnation started.

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No one paid super high taxes anyway regardless of bracket.


No shite. What higher tax brackets accomplished was reigning in executive salaries. As those tax rates started creeping downward, executive pay started creeping upwards, helping lead to wage stagnation and the wage gap.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37301 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:55 am to
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What higher tax brackets accomplished was reigning in executive salaries. As those tax rates started creeping downward, executive pay started creeping upwards, helping lead to wage stagnation and the wage gap.


This is just untrue.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:13 am to
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The War On Poverty you cited was an offshoot of the JFK administration


The lowering of tax rates (trickle down) was a JFK policy. It had nothing to do with the wages at the time.

Loss of manufacturing (steel, autos) in the early 70's plus women entering the workforce were the primary culprits.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:14 am to
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What higher tax brackets accomplished was reigning in executive salaries


Executive salaries is a major problem to the ideologues. How do you think these people are compensated? Most super wealth is created on paper, not in cash.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37301 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:17 am to
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Most super wealth is created on paper, not in cash.


This matters how?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:18 am to
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It also parallels the decline in the top income tax bracket.


Sorry man, this is just wrong.

It parallels the loss of steel and auto industry jobs more than anything else. 1970 was the year that these heavy manufacturing jobs declined, and service related industries grew.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:19 am to
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This matters how?


Wealth created doesn't reduce opportunity for the lower classes. It's a myth.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44358 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:20 am to
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The War On Poverty you cited was an offshoot of the JFK administration


No, it wasn't. JFK had nothing to do with the War on Poverty policies.



Posted by guydiamond
Arizona
Member since Jun 2017
555 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:06 pm to
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They had the nerve to tell me I should be able to feed myself.


You made this up
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4532 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:09 pm to
That type mentality is molded at a young age by not being taught work ethic
Posted by guydiamond
Arizona
Member since Jun 2017
555 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:11 pm to
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There are a good bit of white people


Why did the post about white people get 12 downvotes?

Are y’all upset with people in general scamming the system or just when the people are a different color than you?
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Are y’all upset with people in general scamming the system or just when the people are a different color than you?


Here comes the paranoid delusional....

Posted by guydiamond
Arizona
Member since Jun 2017
555 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:30 pm to
Go rationalize the civil war some more.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11951 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:37 pm to
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stop paying people to do nothing..... thats how you fix it.


All you have to do is watch 30 seconds of the Democratic Presidential Candidates debate to realize that shite is NEVER going to happen. That party runs on freebies and without them, they don't have jobs.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:46 pm to
It has been a way of life for some. Generation after generation after generation.
Why do anything for it. The bigger the family the bigger the “share of the pie”.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Spoken like a true racist.


Splits deuces and doubles down.

Moron.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 1:11 pm to
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Are y’all upset with people in general scamming the system or just when the people are a different color than you?


A lot of it is color, but a lot of it as they just see themselves better than poor people. When poor people do it, it's an outrage. When rich people do it, that's just "good business."
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120295 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 1:12 pm to
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You are defending the welfare recipient receiving food stamps. She cut her hours from full time to part time so she can stay on food stamps.

Yet, the dude that is practically blind and receives a disability check is the pos for doing an occasional side gig playing music for cash

I dont follow your logic. One WANTS to work and the other WANTS a free ride.

ETA : Occassional playing music for cash.





Let's get a few things straight. I am not defending the welfare recipient who take advantage of the system.

And I am comparing people who take advantage of disability. There are a lot of people who go to work every day who could easily file for disability. Whether they have back problems or whatever.

As for as the practically blind who has a side gig playing music for cash that's even worse. So its okay for someone to be on disability and do side jobs for cash? Are they reporting this cash?

They could be making $3000 a month in cash.. I don't care if they are blind, they shouldn't be entitled to a disability check if they are still able to make enough money to live on.
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