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re: WBRZ - Lawmakers to push toll route through Baton Rouge
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:40 pm to Geauxld Finger
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:40 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Posted by Geauxld Finger Tolls!? We don't need no stinking TOLLS! Two things would greatly improve traffic in BR. #1 - A loop (for christ's sake Lake Charles has one) #2 - sync the lights /traffic
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:40 pm to SmellslikeKevinBacon
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Isn't that location about 3 miles south of the Horace Wilkinson Bridge?
Yes. Any further south and it's pointless.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:44 pm to mikelbr
a lot of bitching has been done about I-10 East after Crossing the Miss. River bridge. The bottleneck that is creating due to the sharp curve and going down to one lane to merge towards "Hammond-New Orleans" is a big problem and creates back-ups for miles to West BR, etc. Basically, it's like a stop sign for everyone coming in to BR from Lafayette trying to get to BR, going from Texas to Florida. The stretch needs to be expanded, despite the businesses in that area not wanting it done.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:46 pm to mikelbr
Thirty years late, at least. Thanks Edwin, Dave, Russell, Buddy, Bobbeh, Mike, Kathleen, The Long family, and whomever I forgot. And I am sure there are plenty. Not even starting on mayors.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:47 pm to Dire Wolf
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It's mind blowing that there isn't Nola bypass. Why has all that traffic go right through downtown BR, regardless of the size Baton Rouge is "suppose" to be. Shreveport has it right but they are in Texas so it's no wonder
I-610 is the dictionary definition of a downtown bypass. I-12 helps bypass the entire metro area for interstate commerce traffic heading east-west, and in conjunction with I-55 also constitutes a bypass loop of sorts (I-12 from Slidell to Hammond, I-55 from Hammond to Laplace, I-10 from Laplace to I-610 split, I-610 from split to merge/highrise, I-10 back to Slidell).
US-90 through the Rigolets to the WBE and Hwy 90 (part of the future I-49 extension) also constitute a highway-caliber bypass at the present and will only become more robust whenever the extension happens.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:51 pm to LaBR4
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a lot of bitching has been done about I-10 East after Crossing the Miss. River bridge. The bottleneck that is creating due to the sharp curve and going down to one lane to merge towards "Hammond-New Orleans" is a big problem and creates back-ups for miles to West BR, etc. Basically, it's like a stop sign for everyone coming in to BR from Lafayette trying to get to BR, going from Texas to Florida. The stretch needs to be expanded, despite the businesses in that area not wanting it done.
Which brings to mind the I10 6-laning. Why did they not make the third lane (the inside lane) connect and split as well? Having only 2 lanes peel off when the 3rd starts just a few dozen yards away seems kind of strange.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:56 pm to biglego
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Posted by Geauxld Finger Tolls!? We don't need no stinking TOLLS! Two things would greatly improve traffic in BR. #1 - A loop (for christ's sake Lake Charles has one) #2 - sync the lights /traffic
Problem here is that the loop that was proposed was a TOLL loop. Or does everyone forget?
What pisses me off is that the state spent fricking millions on millions to expand I12 and they they went and connected the Central Thruway to it. So you fixed the problem for exactly half a year. Way to go! I12 is just as fricked up in the morning now than it ever was before. How much money did they spend to put a light on the ONeal onramp that will never be turned on?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:05 pm to Bard
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Which brings to mind the I10 6-laning. Why did they not make the third lane (the inside lane) connect and split as well? Having only 2 lanes peel off when the 3rd starts just a few dozen yards away seems kind of strange.
Exactly.
When the the talk of expanding the interstate in that area came up a few months ago the businesses in that area were strongly against it. I can see why, but bottomline, it just needs to be expanded there. I don't see it happening anytime soon. It's a shame because everywhere else they have added lanes.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:07 pm to LSUMJ
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what BR needs more than anything is a new bridge over the river, between the "new" bridge and the sunshine bridge. thats a HUGE stretch with no other way to cross, and considering the number of plant workers who live in BR but work in iberville or WBR, borderline insane
going from SW BR to Plaquemine, literally right across the river, can take you 50 minutes. how much would traffic headed into downtown could be alleviated if not everyone going west had to go that one single way?
I thought a bridge here made more sense than the one they built by Pointe Coupee.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:17 pm to Napoleon
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I thought a bridge here made more sense than the one they built by Pointe Coupee.
You mean all those tens of people that need quick access to the casino in Marksville should be screwed? Don't be such a hater.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:20 pm to mikelbr
Loop or whatever you want to call it needs to bypass Baton Rouge, that's the only way to fix the traffic problem.
Needs to be a 2 part project, 1st is to bypass from the westbank before the Mississippi River Bridge on I-10 with a 4 lane interstate quality highway to the Sunshine bridge to start then another phase brings it to the Gramercy bridge and the final phase puts it to I-310 to help traffic coming from the east going to New Orleans bypass Baton Rouge.
The other part of the project should use the old 190 bridge and connect into I-12 east of Baton Rouge allowing traffic wanting to bypass the city and traffic wanting to bypass both Baton Rouge and New Orleans to flow.
Government will never come to an agreement on it because they say it will hurt the city. Eventhough the traffic passing through doesn't want to stop in the city regardless. It will forever be a political circle jerk and Baton Rouge will be the laughing stock of traffic engineering on I-10 for years to come.
Needs to be a 2 part project, 1st is to bypass from the westbank before the Mississippi River Bridge on I-10 with a 4 lane interstate quality highway to the Sunshine bridge to start then another phase brings it to the Gramercy bridge and the final phase puts it to I-310 to help traffic coming from the east going to New Orleans bypass Baton Rouge.
The other part of the project should use the old 190 bridge and connect into I-12 east of Baton Rouge allowing traffic wanting to bypass the city and traffic wanting to bypass both Baton Rouge and New Orleans to flow.
Government will never come to an agreement on it because they say it will hurt the city. Eventhough the traffic passing through doesn't want to stop in the city regardless. It will forever be a political circle jerk and Baton Rouge will be the laughing stock of traffic engineering on I-10 for years to come.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:42 pm to Scrowe
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Needs to be a 2 part project, 1st is to bypass from the westbank before the Mississippi River Bridge on I-10 with a 4 lane interstate quality highway to the Sunshine bridge to start then another phase brings it to the Gramercy bridge and the final phase puts it to I-310 to help traffic coming from the east going to New Orleans bypass Baton Rouge.
Hunh? Eastbound to New Orleans traffic will be handled (someday) by the (eventual, maybe) extension of I49 from Lafayette.
Splitting that off well before BR will ease a lot of I10 issues in and around Baton Rouge (especially around Mardi Gras and Bowl times).
What we're talking about is a loop that (many here seem to agree) should cross somewhere around Plaq and run through Pville then up to Denham/L'ston where it would (ideally) connect with a northern loop similar to what you mention in order to not only help with current traffic but to be proactive in providing access for growth instead of all the reactive building that is needed currently.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:46 pm to Golfer
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quote:Isn't that location about 3 miles south of the Horace Wilkinson Bridge?
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Yes. Any further south and it's pointless.
Golfer, your proposed new bridge crossing was one of the crossings in the BR Loop drawings. Personally, I always thought that proposed location was too north in the sense that it really wasn't "bypassing" the city. As the other poster stated, I just thought the southern bridge location (closer to White Castle/St. Gabriel) would better serve the purpose of the bypass and then provide better access to and from the plants, as well as to the casino, and would also provide a closer connecting point to I-10.
That being said, why do you think a new bridge, 3 miles south of the existing bridge, serves a better purpose than the proposed bridge at the southern location?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:46 pm to mikelbr
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An estimated 120,000 vehicles travel over the I-10 Mississippi River bridge each day. The plan is to shift some of that load over to the less-traveled Highway 190 corridor and upgrade it to interstate quality.
I have said for years they need to make west bound traffic on I-10 go across the river at the old bridge (build a new one if you have to) and eastbound come across the new one.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:53 pm to willthezombie
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:54 pm to Roscoe
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That being said, why do you think a new bridge, 3 miles south of the existing bridge, serves a better purpose than the proposed bridge at the southern location?
I think he's looking at a more efficient route for plant workers and folks going to/coming from campus (especially on home game weekend in football season).
While I too wouldn't mind a bridge there, I think before that happens there needs to be one around the St. Gabe area as it would not only pull traffic from the I10 bridge but would provide for future growth (since one of the big growth areas is going south along I10/pville).
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:55 pm to willthezombie
i49 will relieve some of the need for a southern bypass in ascension since most that thru traffic is coming from New Orleans and other areas served by i49.
What we really need is a northern bypass for all the i12 and travelers (lots of trucks and outta state folks) that are bypassing New Orleans anyway.
What we really need is a northern bypass for all the i12 and travelers (lots of trucks and outta state folks) that are bypassing New Orleans anyway.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:02 pm to Asgard Device
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i49 will relieve some of the need for a southern bypass in ascension since most that thru traffic is coming from New Orleans and other areas served by i49.
I think you underestimate how many folks work on the other side of the river from which they live. Even if/when I49 is extended I would be willing to bet a southern loop would still be needed. As I've said in other posts though, it's needed not just for current traffic but for future growth as well.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:07 pm to Bard
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I think he's looking at a more efficient route for plant workers and folks going to/coming from campus (especially on home game weekend in football season).
Well, I'm not sure why that would be a more efficient crossing for the plant workers since most of the plants are located south of the St. Gabriel area.
Also, I don't see how that would really improve traffic near campus. Maybe it would make it easier to access campus on 8 Saturday's of the year. But other than that, I think having the bridge located at that more northern point would add further congestion to the LSU/Nicholson area. Do you really want more by-pass traffic being diverted towards Nicholson between Lee/Gardere?
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:08 pm to Bard
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southern loop would still be needed. As I've said in other posts though, it's needed not just for current traffic but for future growth as well.
I am simply advocating getting the best bang for the buck, which is probably a northern bypass.
We need a full loop and 3 new bridges, but I think we need to be pragmatic and prioritize.
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