Watching Gone With the Wind - the South

Melt year 155.

You’ve got a point; although the North would be a lot more advanced too had they not wasted so much effort on stopping secession and then reconstruction.

Any way you slice it, everything between Canada and Mexico would be better off had they let us go or we had won.

Without question. What happened to the south at the hands of the federal government before and most importantly after the War of Northern Aggression can’t be understated.

While I firmly think the founding fathers believed in the freedom to secede from the union, your take is utterly unfounded. The south was hidebound in its tradition. The idea that we would have become a technological marvel is just silly.

New meaning to snowflake.

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Would probably have the technology to deflect those two storms if the yanks hadn’t ravaged us.

Set us back at least a hundred years

Also a reminder that Lincoln was mentally ill and an atheist who still somehow believed himself to be a puppet of some unseen hand of fate.

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This is probably much more funny in your head.

The South lost. Get over it. I hate to sound like a scallywag but we are better off as part of the USA

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Also a reminder that Lincoln was mentally ill and an atheist who still somehow believed himself to be a puppet of some unseen hand of fate.

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The first president of LSU warned the South against civil war with the North.

In December of 1860, future Union general William Tecumseh Sherman was an ex-U.S. Army Major who had lived in the South for just over a year. He had arrived in Louisiana in November of 1859 to become the founding superintendent of the state’s new military academy, a school that after the Civil War would become Louisiana State University.

From the beginning of Sherman’s time in the South, the atmosphere was filled with talk of secession and civil war. His good friend, David French Boyd, a professor at the school who later became a Confederate officer, noted in his post-war memoir General W.T. Sherman as a College President that such talk disturbed Sherman deeply. “He was constantly talking about it and deploring it, openly as well as privately,” Boyd recalled.

Boyd was visiting Sherman in his room on Christmas Eve of 1860 when the mail arrived. In it was a newspaper announcing that what Sherman had hoped against hope would never happen had come to pass — South Carolina had seceded from the Union.

Sherman was a very emotionally expressive man, and hearing the news he knew was a harbinger of civil war stirred him to his depths. Boyd recalled that “Sherman burst out crying and began, in his nervous way, pacing the floor and deprecating the step which he feared might bring destruction on the whole country.”

For more than an hour Sherman expressed his agitation about the evils secession would bring about, until finally, he exploded with an outburst (quoted by Shelby Foote in The Civil War: A Narrative. Fort Sumter to Perryville) that was prophetic in its accuracy:

You people of the South don’t know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization!

You people speak so lightly of war; you don’t know what you’re talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it…

Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth-right at your doors.

You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.

Or, as Rhett Butler famously said in Gone with the Wind: I mean, Mr. Hamilton, there's not a cannon factory in the whole South.

wrong. If slavery had continued there would likely have been a lot less technological advancement.