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re: Washington Senator states nurses likely play cards all day and angers a lot of nurses

Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10377 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:49 pm to
I don’t want to be a Doctor. And why would I want to sit in your moms basement for a day? Wouldn’t do someone looking into getting into med school any good
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:52 pm to
Alright, jump up and down or whatever you want to do for acknowledgement from me. I don't really care, you don't know what the rest of us are talking about anyway. Cheers.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3389 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Laugh all you want. Physical therapy accepts 36 students, LSU med takes about 150

Just to clarify, do you feel the applicant pool is in the two disciplines is identical, as that makes a difference if you are trying to make the comparison? "Harder to get into" would include more than just simple acceptance rate, I would guess. I'm asking because I don't have the data, though I think I know the answer.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10377 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:59 pm to
K.

Only thing up on LSU’s website is from 2017.

Med Class of 2017:

Entering GPA: 3.7
195 Students
733 applicants

PT:
300 applicants, 35 accepted.


Roughly a 25% acceptance rate vs a 10% acceptance rate. Both require a standardized test and experiential hours. Med doesn’t even have a minimum GPA listed. PT minimum is a 3.0.

Come back to me with facts about how Med is more difficult to Get into than PT
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49559 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:05 pm to


Reminds me of the Teach for america folks telling me TFA is harder to get into than Harvard medical school
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:08 pm to
He actually believes it.

Wow.
Posted by TastyJibblets
North of I-10
Member since Jun 2018
677 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:12 pm to
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PT

I love a good massage
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3389 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Roughly a 25% acceptance rate vs a 10% acceptance rate. Both require a standardized test and experiential hours. Med doesn’t even have a minimum GPA listed. PT minimum is a 3.0.

Come back to me with facts about how Med is more difficult to Get into than PT


The only way you can make the assumption that PT school is more difficult to get into is if the applicant pool is identical or at least reasonably similar. I would wonder what the chance is that average accepted med school student would not be likely to be able to be accepted into PT school? That is a trope I've heard for a long time, but I always suspected it was a non-sequitur, though there is no utility in proving or disproving.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5047 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:35 pm to
quote:


Roughly a 25% acceptance rate vs a 10% acceptance rate. Both require a standardized test and experiential hours. Med doesn’t even have a minimum GPA listed. PT minimum is a 3.0. 

Come back to me with facts about how Med is more difficult to Get into than PT


I'm assuming they don't teach you guys about biases in PT school?
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3651 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:51 pm to
You are using one school.....

The size of the programs are vastly different. PT probably doesn’t have the staff nor funding to support more than 35 students.

Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:51 pm to
I just hope each of y’all at least have good bedside manner, which is extremely important. I won’t even pretend to act like my job is more difficult or harder to get into as its obviously not. But I’ve got close to 20 years in at a fire dept that runs ambulances and make on average 14-15 runs a shift at my particular station (24 hours).

I expect the people I’m with to put their differences aside with nurses and doctors and make patients their main priorities and I don’t write people up much, but someone treating a patient like shite of talking bad about a patient to ER staff will get a write up quickly. We can all be replaced I don’t care how hard your job is. I’ve seen dozens and dozens of nurses, doctors, and surgeons replaced and brought in, and probably close to 100 EMTs and medics, many thinking nobody can replace them. The only goal is what’s best for the patient.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24378 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 3:53 pm to
The average cumulative GPA/ science GPA of someone getting into med school:
3.72/3.65

National acceptance rate (2017-2018):
41.9%

The average cGPA/sGPA of someone getting into PT school:
3.57/3.41
Also consider many of them don’t take tough classes like Organic or BioChem.

National acceptance rate (2017-2018):
56.6%

quote:

Both require a standardized test

Funny how you just brushed over this like they’re both equal or something. The MCAT is significantly tougher and requires far more preparation compared to the GRE.

quote:

733 applicants

Read it again. That’s only counting people from Louisiana that applied there. The AAMC has it listed as 6%.
You’re crazy if you think that the quality of both med school and PT matriculants are the same.

Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
7348 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Come back to me with facts about how Med is more difficult to Get into than PT


This thread is great. We are now at the point where posters believe it is harder to get into PT school than it is Med School. You guys are laughable

If you want to be a nurse, occupational therapist, physical therapist, med tech etc, then make sure that you are a kind-hearted and loving person. But for some reason, these professions are made out to be this terribly hard, self-sacrificing, terrible field that only a ‘select few’ could possible endure.

Give me a break.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3651 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

This thread is great. We are now at the point where posters believe it is harder to get into PT school than it is Med School. You guys are laughable


Well the entire nursing profession has the red arse because a state senator in Washington made a comment, so what did you expect?
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6166 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:47 pm to
I've been a trauma nurse for over 20 years. Her comments, nor any of those presented in this thread, don't bother me at all. I love what I do. Other people's perceptions of my profession don't negate that. I didn't choose to become a nurse because of what I thought it would do for me. I became a nurse because of what I hoped to be able to do for others. I wouldn't change that decision for anything.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138121 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:49 pm to
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trauma nurse for over 20 years.
hey...
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 6:12 pm to
???
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138121 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 6:13 pm to
I said hey. What is not to understand
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 6:24 pm to
Hey Rouge.
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