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re: Washington, DC freed its slaves on this day in 1862. Hooray for Emancipation!

Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:56 am to
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:56 am to
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April 16, 1862


Wonder why they waited a whole year after the Civil War started?
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:58 am to
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Wonder why they waited a whole year after the Civil War started?



Just find it curious that Union-supporting farmers were still able to hold slaves since the entire reason for the Civil War was to end slavery.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:00 am to
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Who knows what the economy of the south would have been if African slaves never stepped foot in North America.
This country would look like the Jetsons.

I’d be driving my flying car right now.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:13 am to
Where’s my holiday?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:30 am to

So the narrative is that the war was fought to end slavery, but slavery wasn’t ended in the union capital until a little more than a year after the start of the war.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:34 am to
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A great day.


Yes it is
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7330 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:10 pm to
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So if they offered this to slave owners in the South, would things have been a little different?


Doubtful.

When you say different, do you mean the end of slavery? Or secession? Or war?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
20 people think freeing the slaves was bad. Jesus.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27274 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:48 pm to
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When you say different, do you mean the end of slavery? Or secession? Or war?


Any or all of it, $300 per slave would’ve been a massive influx of cash for farmers and would’ve helped tremendously to ease the transition past using slavery to harvest their crops.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:50 pm to
We still ain’t free ouchea
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 1:46 pm to
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So the narrative is that the war was fought to end slavery, but slavery wasn’t ended in the union capital until a little more than a year after the start of the war.



Lincoln begged and pleaded with states on the fence to stay in the union, promising that he was not aiming to free their slaves, and they could keep them if they remained loyal. He stated over and over again, even during his state of the union address before the war, that ending slavery was not his goal, only preserving the union. Slavery was not even ended officially until after the war, with the 13th amendment. The emancipation proclamation did not ‘free the slaves’. The only states it applied to were the ones ‘in rebellion’, and therefore, by definition, not even part of the United States at that time.

There is a tremendous amount of confusion and misinformation out there about what actually happened during the civil war period. No matter what your opinions are about it there is a ton of documented fact that has been rewritten or simply ignored. Memory holed.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:30 pm to
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Any or all of it, $300 per slave would’ve been a massive influx of cash for farmers and would’ve helped tremendously to ease the transition past using slavery to harvest their crops.


I agree with your statement. Europe did that about a decade before the war started here IIRC.

However, I do not believe slavery was the driving factor for several states (not all of them).

We can look back to several times since the formation of the country with the new England/ Northern states vocally discussed secession because they didn't want to be in the Union with the southern States. 1790s, 1804 (after the Louisiana purchase) 1814 (after the embargo during the 1812 war with Britain).

Nullification crisis of 1832 with South Carolina was the last example of the States not being in harmony. And in all of these examples it came down to MONEY and POWER. Never slavery.

Lincoln said he would collect the taxes. This was a nod to Andrew Jackson and the S.C. nullification crisis. It was at that point the original States seceded. The next wave was due to the heavy handed response by Lincoln.
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