re: VW storing nearly 300K cheating diesels around US

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in other words, they couldn't *FORCE* you

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Yes they would. My co-worker said the state would deny registration without proof of the fix. So, essentially it would just be a car you couldn't drive, legally and still made car and insurance payments on.

For a limited time I could have, I believe till 2019. The buyback was absolutely too good to pass up. With 130k miles I sold it back for about $2k less than I bought it for brand new. Eventually I was not going tobe able to renew registration on it without their super shitty fix they came up with. I didn't love the car but it was farrrrrr better than the shitty Camry I have now.

What really burns my arse is all they had to do was use the SCR system they already had on the Passat with the same engine across the board and tweak the calibration and none of this shite would have happened. The solution already existed within their own company and they didn't implement it and now we have to live with the other brands shitty offerings for a cheap commuter car. The diesel was just starting to gain a little market traction

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state would deny registration without proof of the fix.

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OH FOR frickS SAKE

i love our government overreach.

My gf has two little cars. One convertible gets like 17, and the other 4-door gets around 18. My '04 3/4 ton gas truck can get 13 if I baby it on the highway. Not much of a difference there, and both of those cars are relatively new.

My diesel '08 F250 got around 12mpg on the highway IIRC. Deleted everything, tuned it, and could sometimes get 24 mpg. The EPA sucking CARB's dick is a horrible thing for everyone.

Now I'm not sure of the comparison of diesel production emissions versus diesel vehicle emissions, but it seems like if you could come close to doubling the mpg of every diesel on the road, that would reduce NOx and SOx emissions more due to the decrease in production

With SCR systems fuel mileage is back to near pre-regulation days across the board. The newest stuff is not bad at all on fuel and fantastic on power. The bad thing is it costs so much more than old stuff. It's way more complex.

I'm not as familiar with on-highway stuff as off, but Volkswagen did not have to cheat. They could have EASILY put compliant vehicles on the market that were far better than everything else out there in both price and performance. They had compliant tech in the market already.

That hunk of shite you had was an intermediate tier between pre-reg and where we're at now. Everything built in those years is basically disposable and want intended to do much but hold over sales until the final stage regulations were in effect.