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re: Visited the Angola Rodeo and Craft fair and was amazed what I saw. Can good come from bad?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 3:52 am to YatInTheHat
Posted on 4/28/19 at 3:52 am to YatInTheHat
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"The Creative Brain" on Netflix. It's a 1 hour documentary on how and why humans think creatively.
Putting it on now.
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It made me second guess my own feelings about incarcerated people who made bad decisions in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sure they need to pay their debt to society, but they are not all animals who should be locked in cages (Oh yeah, some are). They can be capable, creative and artistic people; especially when taught properly how to tap into their innate creativity when they've been told otherwise their entire lives.
I guess the bigger question is, what is the point of incarceration? In particular how it applies to our current penal system.
If it’s to exact primal justice, then make it eye for an eye. Heinous crimes crimes like child molestation, violent rape, cold blooded murder of an innocent...and the evidence has them dead to rights, let them hang swiftly. No sense in a long incarceration. End them.
Something like revenge killing, crime of passion, circumstantial evidence, something that indicates some level of justification or at least doubt in the intentional evil of the crime...maybe these people have a chance at being rehabilitated. Think something like Gary Plauche, or Killing someone that hurt your family...something that indicates a man just being pushed to the edge and snapping.
Someone like that might be salvaged.
If the purpose is truly rehabilitation then the system should strive for that. If you aren’t achieving that in most cases then something isn’t working and should be changed.
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 3:57 am to fr33manator
Did you see the card game? That bull running over everyone is the bomb !!!!
Posted on 4/28/19 at 4:09 am to Pepe Lepew
Never even went in the rodeo. There was so much to look at and haggle over and learn...I just soaked up the experience. Next time I might make the rodeo.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 4:42 am to fr33manator
How much was the ship?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 4:59 am to AFistfulof$
100$
Then I got several of his other pieces at a discount. Best money i’ve Spent in a while
Then I got several of his other pieces at a discount. Best money i’ve Spent in a while
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:00 am to fr33manator
You’ll be so amazed how such shite hole scum of the earth learned the bull riding craft and you’ll give them all your money again
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:14 am to fr33manator
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Never even went in the rodeo. There was so much to look at and haggle over and learn...I just soaked up the experience. Next time I might make the rodeo.
Understand, it is a good rodeo though
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:25 am to Pepe Lepew
Interesting fact: The inmates at Angola built the casket that Billy Cannon in buried in.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:28 am to fr33manator
You may have helped a baby rapist....
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:45 am to Possumslayer
#1, there’s no reason a baby rapist should get to live. Don’t they have to keep them in a special cell block?
You’re telling me they let baby rapists mingle with the public?
You’re telling me they let baby rapists mingle with the public?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:15 am to fr33manator
The guys mingling on the same side of the fence as you are Level One Trusties. They might be a murderer,rapist or armed robber. They have not had an infraction in Twenty or more years. They wear white clothes. The other guys behind the fence in blue are just prisoners. Don’t know if they let the pedo’s out to mingle even if they are level one.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:32 am to Bigfishchoupique
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The guys mingling on the same side of the fence as you are Level One Trusties. They might be a murderer,rapist or armed robber. They have not had an infraction in Twenty or more years
So what does that say about them?
Have they been rehabilitated? Or is it only because they are locked up that they are behaving? Would they revert back to the actions that got them thrown in prison if they were released?
Made me think about Red’s Rehabilitated speech-Shawshank Redemption
1967 Parole Hearings Man: Ellis Boyd Redding, your files say you've served 40 years of a life sentence. Do you feel you've been rehabilitated?
Red: Rehabilitated? Well, now let me see. You know, I don't have any idea what that means.
1967 Parole Hearings Man: Well, it means that you're ready to rejoin society...
Red: I know what you think it means, sonny. To me it's just a made up word. A politician's word, so young fellas like yourself can wear a suit and a tie, and have a job. What do you really want to know? Am I sorry for what I did?
1967 Parole Hearings Man: Well, are you?
Red: There's not a day goes by I don't feel regret. Not because I'm in here, or because you think I should. I look back on the way I was then: a young, stupid kid who committed that terrible crime. I want to talk to him. I want to try and talk some sense to him, tell him the way things are. But I can't. That kid's long gone and this old man is all that's left. I got to live with that. Rehabilitated? It's just a bullshite word. So you go on and stamp your form, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth,
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 6:48 am
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:35 am to fr33manator
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floored by the amount and quality of craftsmanship
It's not like they have a lot of time to do anything else
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:38 am to fr33manator
Read the book Cain's Redemption. Eye opening.
It's about how Angola has changed and how prisoners get to trustee status.
It's about how Angola has changed and how prisoners get to trustee status.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 6:51 am
Posted on 4/28/19 at 7:04 am to fr33manator
....and once again you show why you're my favorite poster on this site.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 7:07 am to Chad504boy
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Get their dicks out of your mouth
You're an arse.
I'd pay good money to see Morstead punt you in the dick.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 7:10 am to Spankum
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my impression of it all was exactly the same...prisons always strike me as one hell of a waste of humanity. the talent that those guys in angola posses is really unbelieveable....and few of them will ever see freedom again.
Why should they? Angola isn’t the home of petty offenders and first-time frick ups. These guys are murderers, rapists, pedos, and the worst of the worst. They weren’t just kidnapped and put there.
frick everyone of them dead. Glad they know how to whittle and have so much time to be such accomplished craftsmen.
Bet their victims would like to be woodworking instead of being victims.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 7:11 am to fr33manator
Don't feed that troll.
Posters like that need to be ignored and forgotten. Just like, according to him, those prisoners in Angola.
Posters like that need to be ignored and forgotten. Just like, according to him, those prisoners in Angola.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 7:38 am
Posted on 4/28/19 at 7:17 am to Gabriel Susan Lewis
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I hope every animal in that prison dies crying you misguided loquacious douchebag
Who hurt you, dear? You can speak freely here. This is a place of healing.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 7:23 am to fr33manator
You’re being dramatic. They are prisoners at Angola making nice crafts to pass the time, which is all they have. If I didn’t have to spend my time working or being a productive member of society, I could make some intricate things as well. Are there some good guys that did some bad shite in Angola? Sure, but that’s not my problem
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