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re: Visited the Angola Rodeo and Craft fair and was amazed what I saw. Can good come from bad?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:02 pm to Masterag
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:02 pm to Masterag
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There is a killer in each of us given the right circumstance,
So many like to pretend that they are incapable of something like murder. Like it’s some chromosome.
They forget that all of our ancestors were conquerers. This relative peace is a fairly current phenomena
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:06 pm to tigerfoot
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Ok. So you are “rehabilitated”. What happens when you lose a job, get a divorce, or life throws you another set of tough circumstances. Do you get to go rob or rose someone?
I don’t like my safety or security depending on a rehabbed criminal never facing tough times again. No different than a dog that bites. They will do it again if the opportunity presents itself.
So are you suggesting that no criminals ever be let out of jail? If you aren't arguing this don't you think you are safer if the prison system works to rehabilitate those that will be getting out?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:12 pm to Obtuse1
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If you aren't arguing this don't you think you are safer if the prison system works to rehabilitate those that will be getting out?
Problem is the system is designed so that it is very difficult to reinsert into society once time is served.
That’s one of the reasons fur the right to forget laws.
If you don’t allow people a chance to re enter society once they serve time the higher chance they will end up back in prison.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:16 pm to ProfFrink
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Problem is the system is designed so that it is very difficult to reinsert into society once time is served.
That’s one of the reasons fur the right to forget laws.
If you don’t allow people a chance to re enter society once they serve time the higher chance they will end up back in prison
It is their responsibility to work their way back into society, not ours to pave the way for them.
People that are frick ups just on a work or business level have to prove their worth. When you are talking about someone that has perpetrated a crime against society that caused them to be locked up for many years in jail, it is on them to start at the bottom and work their way up.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:23 pm to diat150
It’s going to take people like this willing to take a chance and give former convicts a real shot at not just surviving but thriving. The improvements that were made through their rehabilitation will likely be lost if they lose that support group and structure.
You want a plant to grow you have to nurture it. Not just toss seeds back in the yard and say, “there you go.”
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:38 pm to diat150
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is their responsibility to work their way back into society, not ours to pave the way for them.
I agree. However we need to make it possible for them to work their way back in. I do agree they have to earn that respect back but I do think we need to make sure that is possible.
I do agree. Start back from the bottom and work up from there once released.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:16 pm to ProfFrink
How about creating workshops and dorms where they can maintain that structure and support system and produce goods for the public?
Have local businesses come by and observe them, and have a waiver that they are willing to take a chance and overlook the felony
Have local businesses come by and observe them, and have a waiver that they are willing to take a chance and overlook the felony
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:25 am to fr33manator
There are just as many murderers that are not behind the fence selling stuff. The ones behind the fence are not trusty’s. Probably a good many of the inmates selling stuff are murderers, they’ve just been good inmates and have earned the role of trusty.
It is a sad thing to see all that talent wasted. But I’m never gonna be one for seeing murderers set free because they have become good inmates. Big difference living in Angola and living in the real world.
It is a sad thing to see all that talent wasted. But I’m never gonna be one for seeing murderers set free because they have become good inmates. Big difference living in Angola and living in the real world.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:56 am to fr33manator
Posted on 4/29/19 at 6:22 am to iluvlsusports
Some of those people can never be “ rehabilitated” because they were never “ habilitated” to begin with.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 7:54 am to Spankum
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prisons always strike me as one hell of a waste of humanity
I wholeheartedly agree with this.
We have a huge population of able bodied laborers just sitting there for the most part doing nothing, that can be put to work at little cost.
Why we don't take more advantage of that is beyond me.
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