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re: Violent crime dropped an estimated 3% in the United States last year, FBI crime data shows
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:57 am to Gaggle
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:57 am to Gaggle
quote:
in reality it was probably much worse than what was even reported as it was in fact already being manipulated,
Oh so now they were manipulating during the spike
At least you're consistent (just not logical)
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
I said the exact thing at the beginning of the discussion. Explain how the narrative changed?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:59 am to Gaggle
quote:
I said the exact thing at the beginning of the discussion. Explain how the narrative changed?
They're either manipulating the sata or they're not. Make a choice.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:manipulation is also not binary. serious question are you autistic?
Oh so now they were manipulating during the spike
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:00 pm to Gaggle
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This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:As I've already said it has always been inherently subject to human manipulation.
They're either manipulating the sata or they're not. Make a choice.
You're trying to *WIN* but you're being an idiot with your trap attempts
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:03 pm to TooFyeToFly
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What's sad is that people on here have bitched about high crime rate for year, but they get pissed when it comes down during a Democrat's tenure
Libs confuse the reporting of crime with actual crime.
The right cares about actual crime. They don’t feel better by the manipulation of data.
The left on the other hand only cares about the label. Crime itself isn’t important b
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:04 pm to upgrayedd
quote:My guess is the autist found him a leftist piece of pussy
SFP has made another miraculous 180 degree board personality shift and now assures us all that the govt wouldn’t lie to you.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:04 pm to Gaggle
quote:
As I've already said it has always been inherently subject to human manipulation.
But why would they ever manipulate it to increase crime?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:05 pm to Gaggle
quote:because I'm making the same arguments I've made for 20 years on here?
My guess is the autist found him a leftist piece of pussy
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:07 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Memphis must not have been included in that study
Actually you are correct! Also missing from this years FBI stats are Chicago, New York, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Los Angeles, Miami, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Atlanta, San Fran, Newark, Birmingham, Houston, etc..
Approximately 30% of the US did not provide crime states to the FBI in 2023/2024
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'll ask a simple question: why is it so difficult to accept that violent crime is going down?
Do you have personal experience in all of the cities for which I've posted data? Any of them?
Do you have personal experience in all of the cities for which I've posted data? Any of them?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
But why would they ever manipulate it to increase crime?
you have a hard time following
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:because that's not the observation.
I'll ask a simple question: why is it so difficult to accept that violent crime is going down?
What if you didn't have data? What would you think of the rate of violent crime over recent years? Would you be capable of having a notion on it?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's true, but somewhat irrelevant.
I posted on this subject a few times. I’m in the public safety software business.
The FBI switched from UCR summary to NIBRS reporting back in 2021. NIBRS is a more compressive data collection method. It’s much harder to implement at larger agencies because the error rate is far greater. To get certification an agency has to submit 3 consecutive months with an error rate of 3% or less.
New Orleans, NYC and LA are some examples of large cities that are not reporting the NIBRS data set.
The FBI has been doing data modeling to fill in the missing data gaps for these large agencies. Their algorithms take historical trends and comes up with a crime data set. Many folks inside the industry are critical of the modeling because it’s almost impossible to model crime in a way that is consistent with actual reporting.
I don’t doubt for a solitary second the FBI is manipulating stats to feed a narrative. You won’t see any MSM reporting on this for obvious reasons.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I'm responding and quoting someone who said you have made a 180. You can see I haven't been here for 20 years. You really have a hard time following
because I'm making the same arguments I've made for 20 years on here?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:11 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yeah, this is totally believable. We have people from Central America, South America and other locations (with little education or job training) setting up shop in the U.S. ...
Financial struggles and increasing credit card debt for many people -- who would be looking for a quick buck to help resolve the issue....
And crime supposedly went DOWN under those conditions.
Financial struggles and increasing credit card debt for many people -- who would be looking for a quick buck to help resolve the issue....
And crime supposedly went DOWN under those conditions.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:13 pm to lsufan1971
Participation in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program is completely voluntary and starting in 2021, 37% of police departments stopped reporting crime data to the FBI, including Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:14 pm to MrLSU
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Also missing from this years FBI stats are Chicago
I've posted it before and I'm pretty sure violent crime is decreasing
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New York
Posted in his thread violent crime is decreasing
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New Orleans
Person in this thread. Violent crime is decreasing
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Los Angeles
Posted in his thread. Violent crime is decreasing
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Philadelphia
Violent crime is decreasing
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San Fran
Violent crime is decreasing
Other than baton rouge I bet the vast majority of the other cities that you listed are experiencing a similar trend of decreasing violent crime
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why do you think so many people here think it's going up?
Is it media manipulation for political purposes? Because that would be, like, a conspiracy theory.
Is it media manipulation for political purposes? Because that would be, like, a conspiracy theory.
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