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re: Verdun, February 21, 1916. How long could you stand the bombardment of a million shells?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:49 am to fr33manator
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:49 am to fr33manator
There are places along the line that have so much lead in the ground that the areas are still deemed uninhabitable a hundred years later.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 8:50 am
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:50 am to fr33manator
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How long could you stand the bombardment of a million shells?
quote:
For 10 hours, over 800 German guns sent over a million shells to bombard the area
About 10 hours I suppose.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:52 am to keks tadpole
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There are places along the line that have so much lead in the ground that the areas are still deemed uninhabitable a hundred years later.
There are 9 dead villages in the red zone. The ghost villages that died for France.
Beaumont-en-Verdunois
Bezonvaux
Cumières-le-Mort-Homme
Douaumont
Fleury-devant-Douaumont
Haumont-près-Samogneux
Louvemont-Côte-du-Poivre
Ornes
Vaux-devant-Damloup.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:52 am to Shotgun Willie
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It is narrated by Dan Carlin,
Dan Carlin's description of Verdun in Blueprint for Armageddon is harrowing
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:54 am to Ash Williams
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Dan Carlin's description of Verdun in Blueprint for Armageddon is harrowing
Just chilling. Even the way he says it.
“Verdun”. As if the very name has this power to conjure up dread.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:02 am to beerJeep
This was also one of the more notable uses of flamethrowers in WW1
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:05 am to fr33manator
I think that the best depiction of a shelling is in Band of Brothers when they are in the forest in the Ardennes getting pounded. Below freezing temps, and bombs raining down on you, big trees and giant limbs exploding all around you. Absolute hell.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:16 am to fr33manator
At what point does it become white noise or shell shock? Truly hellish conditions.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:19 am to Darth_Vader
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Somme
First day of the Somme was ridiculous. Brits were devastated. Newfoundland Regiment suffered over a 90% casualty rate, most within 10-15 minutes.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:20 am to fr33manator
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Just chilling. Even the way he says it.
“Verdun”. As if the very name has this power to conjure up dread.
The two most chilling part were his description of Verdun and his explanation of how entire town's male youths were killed off because they would group people from the same town together in units. One unit gets wiped out, that could be all 60 men from a small town.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:26 am to Ash Williams
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The two most chilling part were his description of Verdun and his explanation of how entire town's male youths were killed off because they would group people from the same town together in units. One unit gets wiped out, that could be all 60 men from a small town.
The Brits had their pals divisions which were similar. Entire regiments of soldiers from the same town, football clubs, factories.
Most of the original expeditionary forces were wiped out within a year of the start of the war.
This is the British Lancashire Fusiliers at the Sunken Rd, Somme.. This was approx. a half hour before going over the top. They went over at 7:30a, by 7:40a most were dead.
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This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:53 am to keks tadpole
To be at the front line taking this battering was the worst nightmare possible. (and for what end-goal again?)
WW1 was the worst excuse for war -- nevermind one that killed 40 mil and maimed and created misery for countless other millions.
Many say this conflict was the first contrived "Globalist" war. No historian can give any possible good reason for it.
WW1 was the worst excuse for war -- nevermind one that killed 40 mil and maimed and created misery for countless other millions.
Many say this conflict was the first contrived "Globalist" war. No historian can give any possible good reason for it.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:57 am to fr33manator
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The experience is only 300 seconds. The bombardment of the first day lasted 10 hours
You're my favorite kinda weirdo, fr33
Keep being you, bro
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:59 am to Liberator
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Many say this conflict was the first contrived "Globalist" war. No historian can give any possible good reason for it.
It seems like War was so romanticized before WWI that countries went into it with excitement and gusto. That period brought the true brutality of war to light. Countries that went to war because they had pretty uniforms and new weapons to try out got a big reality check. Even with the footage, pictures and accounts we can't fully grasp the trauma that WWI soldiers endured.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:02 am to madmaxvol
It was 19th century tactics meeting 20th century tech. Modern marvels of murder and destruction. We had crossed a threshold and there was no way back
The ones who would not grow old
Some rallied for their country,
Some rallied for their king,
Some rallied for their comrades,
Some just joined ‘cause that’s the thing,
The Millers and the merchants,
The workers and the blokes,
They joined to be the hammer,
That upon the anvil broke,
From villages and hamlets,
From cities and from towns,
Left their wains there in the cradle,
Waiting brides in wedding gowns,
As they traded caps for tin hats,
Wrench for rifles the exchanged,
And left familiar hearth and Heath,
For foreign lands so strange,
So those who draw a breath now,
More than hundred years removed,
Who never saw the jagged holes,
A century’s left smoothed,
They don’t want any medals,
Now, they’re not but buried bone,
Who lie still in the verdant hills,
Or ossuaries carved From stone,
Their dreams, their hopes,
Their lines, their loves,
Now in the mud grow cold,
A sacrifice to careless gods,
Those who would not grow old.
So many never would return,
To those who bid farewell,
Just casualties, statistics,
In those bleak and battered hells,
Insignia, it mattered not,
They wore upon their shirt,
Who fought beneath their banners,
Now just rest beneath the dirt,
A million score of old men,
Who will never bounce on knee,
The sweet smile of a grandchild,
Toast an anniversary,
They just lay still and silent,
Laid to waste by lords at home,
Most are all but not forgotten,
Just innumerable buried bones,
How I wish I now was writing,
Of a war that brought an end,
Alas, it’s just a chapter,
‘Til another’s written, friend,
How quickly we forget,
That it’s hard times,
That forge strong men,
How many decades will it take,
Until the lesson’s learned again?
I weep for all the stories,
By old men t’were never told,
And raise my glass in tribute,
For the ones who won’t grow old.
The ones who would not grow old
Some rallied for their country,
Some rallied for their king,
Some rallied for their comrades,
Some just joined ‘cause that’s the thing,
The Millers and the merchants,
The workers and the blokes,
They joined to be the hammer,
That upon the anvil broke,
From villages and hamlets,
From cities and from towns,
Left their wains there in the cradle,
Waiting brides in wedding gowns,
As they traded caps for tin hats,
Wrench for rifles the exchanged,
And left familiar hearth and Heath,
For foreign lands so strange,
So those who draw a breath now,
More than hundred years removed,
Who never saw the jagged holes,
A century’s left smoothed,
They don’t want any medals,
Now, they’re not but buried bone,
Who lie still in the verdant hills,
Or ossuaries carved From stone,
Their dreams, their hopes,
Their lines, their loves,
Now in the mud grow cold,
A sacrifice to careless gods,
Those who would not grow old.
So many never would return,
To those who bid farewell,
Just casualties, statistics,
In those bleak and battered hells,
Insignia, it mattered not,
They wore upon their shirt,
Who fought beneath their banners,
Now just rest beneath the dirt,
A million score of old men,
Who will never bounce on knee,
The sweet smile of a grandchild,
Toast an anniversary,
They just lay still and silent,
Laid to waste by lords at home,
Most are all but not forgotten,
Just innumerable buried bones,
How I wish I now was writing,
Of a war that brought an end,
Alas, it’s just a chapter,
‘Til another’s written, friend,
How quickly we forget,
That it’s hard times,
That forge strong men,
How many decades will it take,
Until the lesson’s learned again?
I weep for all the stories,
By old men t’were never told,
And raise my glass in tribute,
For the ones who won’t grow old.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:02 am to fr33manator
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:04 am to madmaxvol
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It seems like War was so romanticized before WWI that countries went into it with excitement and gusto.
Foreign observers did a piss poor job of conveying the sights and sounds of the Overland Campaign of May-June 1864 to their superiors on the general staffs of the various European countries. Those late American Civil War battles between Grant and Lee were a definite sign of things to come.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:09 am to madmaxvol
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It seems like War was so romanticized before WWI that countries went into it with excitement and gusto.
The Germans went into the first battle of Ypres arm in arm, singing.
Mowed down in their thousands
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:58 am to fr33manator
Horrible. We as citizens need to make sure our leaders think long and hard before involving our young people in a foreign war. It’s one thing to defend our country, our allies, and our interests if necessary, but to subject our people, or any people, to something like that without a damn good reason is a crime. Just because it hasn’t happened in a long time doesn’t mean it could never happen again.
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