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Valedictorian says Illinois school ordered him to cut Christ from speech

Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:22 pm
Ditch Jesus or Else



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A recent graduate of West Prairie High School in Sciota, Illinois, is exploring legal options after school officials allegedly ordered him to remove all mentions of Jesus Christ from his commencement speech.

Sam Blackledge, 18, told Fox News this week that he “wanted to cry” after he was forced to edit his graduation address moments before its delivery. The all-star student said he was ordered to deliver generic comments devoid of the true inspiration for his academic performance.




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“Christ is the only reason I was a valedictorian. He’s the reason I got that 4.0. If it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t be up there. I was giving him the credit for that,” he said Monday.

Jeremy Dys, the student’s attorney, told a CBS affiliate in Kansas that school officials infringed upon the young man’s First Amendment rights.

“They actually violated the Constitution,” the First Liberty Institute attorney said Tuesday. “They’d do well to remember, as ‘Tinker v. Des Moines,’ the case in 1969, reminds us, that students do not shed their constitutional rights when they walk through the schoolhouse gates.”



What a brave new world we live in. Such tolerance.....


Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:23 pm to
If a Muslim valedictorian wanted to praise allah you can bet it would be allowed
Posted by TigerFanDan
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:26 pm to
Never should've changed it. What could they do about it?
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:27 pm to
Religion Board
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:28 pm to
He should have given a speech about the 1st Amendment.


Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:31 pm to
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wanted to cry

Another pussy leader is born.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:33 pm to
This is a public school function and public schools are supposed to be void of religion.

So what’s the issue here?
Posted by brass2mouth
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

This is a public school function and public schools are supposed to be void of religion.

No. They are void from school led religion, not student lead. Which is how the FCA and other similar organizations exist.
Posted by mtntiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

This is a public school function and public schools are supposed to be void of religion.

So what’s the issue here?


Yes, it is a public school, but the speech isn't being given on behalf of the school. It is the personal speech of the valedictorian. Should the school be allowed to tell students not mention God in any of their essays? Can the school tell kids not to wear crosses or clothing that expresses a religious view?
Posted by airfernando
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:40 pm to
Just say okay and give the speech that you want to give
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

This is a public school function and public schools are supposed to be void of religion.

So what’s the issue here?
It's ok if student- led.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

This is a public school function and public schools are supposed to be void of religion.

So what’s the issue here?



Wrong


It’s truly the only venue that matters because it’s a government institution.

Read your constitution.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

“Christ is the only reason I was a valedictorian. He’s the reason I got that 4.0. If it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t be up there. I was giving him the credit for that,” he said Monday.
This was similar to the valedictorian’s speech at my brothers graduation, except instead dismissing all of her own hard work that led to this, she was dismissing everybody else’s and saying Jesus was the reason they made it. She was just annoying throughout it, but she took the religious part too far when you start bringing everybody else into it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:50 pm to
What would they do if he said what he wanted

What a pussy
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:53 pm to
This kid sounds like a fricking pussy. He wanted to cry over a high school speech? Get over it and toughen the frick up
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:54 pm to
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What would they do if he said what he wanted

What a pussy

That’s what I was thinking. He shouldn’t just given his speech. No one would remember it anyway. Graduations speeches are forgettable. Since he pussied out, he should move on with his life. Go enjoy college.
Posted by Twenty 49
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:57 pm to
If the kid wants to be a dill weed and preach at graduation, let him show everyone who he really is.

No one would have paid attention if he got to deliver his preach, but due to the Streisand effect the ban put him in the papers and even TD as a hero for religion. The school really did him a favor if wanted to spread the word.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:01 pm to
Right. Most of the audience would’ve tuned him out anyway. No one listens to graduation speeches. They audience is playing on their phones and the graduates are just waiting for it to be over.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

This is a public school function and public schools are supposed to be void of religion.

What Constitution have you been reading? Because mine says the exact opposite
quote:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech

School officials are in stead of Congress in this instance
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:12 am to
quote:

School officials are in stead of Congress in this instance


Only because of pesky liberal judges holding that the Bill of Rights applies to the states because of the 14th Amendment. It was a bit of a stretch to get there.

The legally conservative view is that the rights in the Bill of Rights limit only the federal government. The states could then have official churches, like some of them did in the early days, or discriminate based on religion.
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