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UW professor: The information war is real, and we’re losing it

Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:17 pm


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/uw-professor-the-information-war-is-real-and-were-losing-it/


A University of Washington professor started studying social networks to help people respond to disasters. But she got dragged down a rabbit hole of twitter-boosted conspiracy theories, and ended up mapping our political moment.

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Starbird argues in a new paper, set to be presented at a computational social-science conference in May, that these “strange clusters” of wild conspiracy talk, when mapped, point to an emerging alternative media ecosystem on the web of surprising power and reach.

It features sites such as Infowars.com, hosted by informal President Donald Trump adviser Alex Jones, which has pushed a range of conspiracies, including that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a staged fake.

There are dozens of other conspiracy-propagating websites such as beforeitsnews.com, nodisinfo.com and veteranstoday.com. Starbird cataloged 81 of them, linked through a huge community of interest connected by shared followers on Twitter, with many of the tweets replicated by automated bots.

Infowars.com alone is roughly equivalent in visitors and page views to the Chicago Tribune, according to Alexa.com, the web-traffic analysis firm.

“More people are dipping into this stuff than I ever imagined,” Starbird says.


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The true common denominator, she found, is anti-globalism — deep suspicion of free trade, multinational business and global institutions.

“To be antiglobalist often included being anti-mainstream media, anti-immigration, anti-science, anti-U.S. government, and anti-European Union,” Starbird says.

So it was like the mind of Stephen Bannon, chief adviser to Trump, spilled across the back channels of the web.

Much of it was strangely pro-Russian, too — perhaps due to Russian twitter bots that bombarded social channels during the presidential campaign (a phenomenon that’s now part of the FBI investigation into the election, McClatchy reported last week).

The mainstream press periodically waded into this swamp, but it only backfired. Its occasional fact checks got circulated as further evidence: If the media is trying to debunk it, then the conspiracy must be true.

Starbird is publishing her paper as a sort of warning. The information networks we’ve built are almost perfectly designed to exploit psychological vulnerabilities to rumor.

“Your brain tells you ‘Hey, I got this from three different sources,’?” she says. “But you don’t realize it all traces back to the same place, and might have even reached you via bots posing as real people. If we think of this as a virus, I wouldn’t know how to vaccinate for it.”

Starbird says she’s concluded, provocatively, that we may be headed toward “the menace of unreality — which is that nobody believes anything anymore.” Alex Jones, she says, is “a kind of prophet. There really is an information war for your mind. And we’re losing it.”
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:20 pm to
Wish I wasn’t on mobile and could type out a longer response.

I don’t mind the basic premise and conclusion of her article. I do mind that she blatantly assumes that only the conservative-leaning sources are the problem and that the conspiracy/rumor issue in the information war is not part of sources like Huff Post, CNN, etc.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:24 pm to
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I don’t mind the basic premise and conclusion of her article

Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:26 pm to
Bill Clinton is a rapist Infowars.com
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:27 pm to
Yeah shes not biased at all.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:27 pm to
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“Your brain tells you ‘Hey, I got this from three different sources,’?” she says. “But you don’t realize it all traces back to the same place


You mean like the MSM?
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:28 pm to
Every main stream website is left leaning, you have to search out right
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:31 pm to
And it goes both ways. LOL at that thing thinking an "information war for your mind" is anything new. The technological platforms are all that is new. False narratives and political and cultural propaganda are as old as can be. And it's funny that it's only being portrayed as a huge problem due to the rise of Alex Jones and a rise in nationalism. No bitching when leftist false narratives and propaganda are peddled on social media and "professional" media.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:31 pm to
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anti-mainstream media, anti-immigration, anti-science, anti-U.S. government


I mean, some of these are pretty much the worst things about America right now.

Media bias and fake news.
Illegals getting free shite.
The corruption and wastefulness that is the government.

Could it be the real consequences of these things stir passions in even the least politically aspired individuals?

Nah, gotta be conspiracies.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:32 pm to
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anti-science
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:33 pm to
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I do mind that she blatantly assumes that only the conservative-leaning sources are the problem and that the conspiracy/rumor issue in the information war is not part of sources like Huff Post, CNN, etc.

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It isn’t a traditional left-right political axis, she found. There are right-wing sites like Danger & Play and left-wing sensationalizers such as The Free Thought Project. Some appear to be just trying to make money, while others are aggressively pushing political agendas.

Did we read different articles?
Posted by gaetti15
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:44 pm to
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Yeah shes not biased at all.


They say that in the methods section of the paper

Cracks me the frick up that they have this line in there.

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Political Leaning: Finally, we coded the political leaning
of each domain. It is important to note that the first author
is a left-leaning individual who receives her news primarily
through mainstream sources and who considers the alterna-
tive narratives regarding these mass shooting events to be
false.
This may have affected how the content on these
domains was perceived and classified.




The whole foundation of political leaning assignments are based on the views of one person who has identified herself as bias.

Why couldn't they have a random sample of folks to do that?

Maybe a stratified sample with random sample of folks from both right,left, and middle folks?

This paper is a joke
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 7:46 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:47 pm to
And this received NSF funding

Can't believe a paper like this wasn't scrutinized more. It's such lazy research.

Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:50 pm to
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:53 pm to
We’re only a few steps away from having a good book burning, Berlin style.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:56 pm to
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You mean like the MSM?


This is a reckless false equivalency.

1. Sure MSM has bias but they also have accountability. It they produce a false story, there are consequences. The three journalists responsible for CNN’s last false report were all terminated. Russia propaganda outlets like Sputnik and RT have no such accountability or consequences. The same applies for the websites that push their stories like Tyler Durden (lol) at Zero Hedge.

2. There is a fine line between persuasion and manipulation. CNN has a slant, all media has a slant. However, CNN doesn't manufacture and push false information to alter one's perception like the Russian propaganda machine, it's not even close. Also, CNN doesn't have an army of paid trolls and bots to push the narratives they want to sink in. CNN's and the MSMs stories are proliferated by regular Americans.

3. In warfare, the first task at hand is to cut off communications. When our long standing media institutions like the NYT, WSJ, WaPO, CNN are irresponsibly demonized/discredited to the point where Americans choose to ignore their information and reporting, the enemy has successfully fractured our communication system. They go one step further when they prop up their own communication systems like RT/Sputnik/InfoWars and the other websites that push their bullshite.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:01 pm to
How about we argue the research? Not the news article that summarizes the shitty paper with even more bias
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:13 pm to
hack piece
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17232 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

We’re only a few steps away from having a good book burning, Berlin style.





You people crack me the frick up with your delusions.
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