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re: Utility company employee pepper sprayed a dog in a private back yard and entered without
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:17 am to i am dan
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:17 am to i am dan
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Yeah, but they're usually scared of mean dogs the most. If a dog happily walked up to the gate, tail wagging, I think most people might be okay.
Rarely are they going to just wait and see if the dog is friendly. It happens all the time. Most people don't realize it because dogs recover pretty quick:
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:21 am to jlovel7
Tell your friend to put up a Beware of Dog sign. That gives utility company an option to maybe knock first, and ask Dog be secured. If not at home, he'd ready with pepper spray. Owner is liable for any injuries caused by dog, due to easement. Worker has the right to enter and service the equipment.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:21 am to fastlane
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So if the dog attacks he should just let it happen?
At some point, common sense should prevail. Dog secured in his own backyard? Hmmm…it might not take kindly to stranger in his space. Knock and get permission. Or retreat. Problem solved.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:25 am to fastlane
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So if the dog attacks he should just let it happen?
Maybe leave?
He shouldn't be there without homeowners permission/knowledge
Basically, it's very avoidable.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:30 am to 9Fiddy
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homeowner to provide free and clear access to all utility owned equipment such as electric or gas meters.
Kinda agree, but NO WAY if he entered a gated area like back yard etc..
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:31 am to ChatGPT of LA
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He shouldn't be there without homeowners permission/knowledge
That's not how it works
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:31 am to BigBinBR
Yeah, that was wrong. Those dogs were friendly acting. I was just curious as to how honest you were being with your dogs. Some people would say their dogs were not the problem, when their dogs rushed the fence barking and stuff.
But yeah, sweet dogs like in that video shouldn't be sprayed. That worker was a prick.
But yeah, sweet dogs like in that video shouldn't be sprayed. That worker was a prick.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:32 am to jlovel7
They left a letter on the door with the day they were coming.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:32 am to ChatGPT of LA
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Maybe leave?
He shouldn't be there without homeowners permission/knowledge
Basically, it's very avoidable.
He doesn't require their permission does he?
You think a meter reader should schedule readings with all the homeowners in the city prior to coming out? Did you actually think about this before you posted? Might take him 2 years to get those monthly readings done after scheduling...
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:34 am to i am dan
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He doesn't require their permission does he?
Nope. As long as it's in execution of lawful duties and orders (811/utility companies) you can't legally stop them from doing their job. If you try they can call law enforcement and make you comply.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:56 am to jlovel7
I skimmed this but dont see the reason for the entry? Was the employeee using the easement area for entry? If not then I would have a problem with it.
My own situation is that the power at my house comes from the back and TEE's with lines running behind my house (between me and our neighbors) The area where those lines are Alabama Power has a 30' easement. The problem is that they NEVER maintain the area and it is overgrown and impassable. All the neighbors have fences that are on the easement line, not the property line.
But for their convenience they would try to enter through my drive way and backyard to reset the jack if it blows. I always told them no. They are free to use their easement for access.
Then I was out of town and after a storm they had to replace the transformer on the pole right behind my house. So they brought a big truck with a hoist on it to do the work and destroyed my back yard. Zoysia rutted up (12" deep ruts since grass was soggy from a lot of rain), broke several irrigation lines. Their solution was to send someone out who spread sand over the ruts and called it a day. That resulted in my paying for a brick and wrought iron fence to be built to keep them out.
If they want access they can keep the easement clear. I understand they have a job to do but that easement if for them to maintain.
My own situation is that the power at my house comes from the back and TEE's with lines running behind my house (between me and our neighbors) The area where those lines are Alabama Power has a 30' easement. The problem is that they NEVER maintain the area and it is overgrown and impassable. All the neighbors have fences that are on the easement line, not the property line.
But for their convenience they would try to enter through my drive way and backyard to reset the jack if it blows. I always told them no. They are free to use their easement for access.
Then I was out of town and after a storm they had to replace the transformer on the pole right behind my house. So they brought a big truck with a hoist on it to do the work and destroyed my back yard. Zoysia rutted up (12" deep ruts since grass was soggy from a lot of rain), broke several irrigation lines. Their solution was to send someone out who spread sand over the ruts and called it a day. That resulted in my paying for a brick and wrought iron fence to be built to keep them out.
If they want access they can keep the easement clear. I understand they have a job to do but that easement if for them to maintain.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:04 pm to jlovel7
I need to know what kind of dog we are talking about before jumping to any conclusions here
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:04 pm to jlovel7
Power company baw would prolly beat the piss out of all you internet tough guys. Then pepper spray your dog again for good measure.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:05 pm to Dixie2023
Yes. He trespassed.
Legally he did not.
Legally he did not.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:09 pm to Snipe
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if you go into someones fenced property and shoot or harm their dog then you need an arse whipping from the owners and then to be arrested for . . . animal cruelty.
Yep, this is the part that people are missing when they talk about the servitude/right-of-way/easement or electric service agreement. There is no contract that a power company can write up that gives their employees the right to commit a crime. Animal cruelty is a crime.
I deleted trespassing from your post, because if they have a servitude/right-of-way/easement, there is no trespassing.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:29 pm to BiggerBear
They also have a right to not be harassed by your animal. No chance pepper spraying the dog is a crime of any sort.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:29 pm to lsufan112001
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My brother has this exact job. And he’s there to cut on/off power for nonpayment.
They still have guys for this? I am as rural as it gets and even our meter is read and can be turned off/on via computer.
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:08 pm to jlovel7
That is their favorite part of the job.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:11 pm to i am dan
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You think a meter reader should schedule readings with all the homeowners in the city prior to coming out? Did you actually think about this before you posted? Might take him 2 years to get those monthly readings done after scheduling...
If it's a problem situation, yes, try a simple call. Surely you don't think meter readers can break the law, or have indemnity, while performing readings?
If kids are playing baseball in a yard, and ge enters a gate into the yard, can he pepper spray the kids for having bats?
Answer is NO
So compare that to a dog, non threatening. Why can he spray the dog, without consequence?
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:52 pm to jlovel7
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most likely the worker entered legally via an easement to service equipment.
Did they extend fence around that type of easement?
It seems like with fence updates some owners will push fence out into easements to gain some yard. They should know the risks, but I am not sure how well an inspector is going to point that out when purchasing a home with a fence already pushed into easement and possibly over utility pipes or wiring.
If reading meter there is usually a set time frame they have to do this for standard billing periods, so they would just have to keep dog inside a few days around that date.
Still if they were home at the time why spray the dog when you can ask owner to put it inside? Hypothetically if it’s a pit I am not taking a chance that pepper spray is going to work especially if there is a common sense solution. I just can’t see a company telling someone to take that risk without even checking if a simple knock on the door could take the dog completely out of the equation. If dog is not aggressive at all the arse might have done just because he could.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 1:55 pm
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