re: Utah passes bill to cut "useless" college degrees at state universities.

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Publicly funded schools should teach condensed curriculums focused on trades and streamlined stem classes.

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Ok, I can buy cutting out some electives.

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If you want to major in anything from social sciences to gender studies or whatever else you can go to a private school. The states shouldn’t be funding those things.

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What you’re lumping in as social science is science.

But it would be horribly stupid to tell future social workers, therapists, and the like they have to go private when many not in private practice make less than teachers.

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Because in addition to business owners, managers, engineers, and doctors, we also need teachers, lawyers, writers, etc.

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This is not a compelling argument for the government funded education of those careers.

Your argument is that if the government doesn’t fund degrees for teachers and writers then those careers will vanish? No.

I agree about the importance of them. And all of those careers can and should be handled in the private sector.

You want a free education and a job? Go to public school and be trained and pay society back for funding you.

You want a career like teaching or writing or art or lawyering? Go to a private institution that will train you in those things. Sacrifice your own time and money.

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You want a career like teaching or writing or art or lawyering? Go to a private institution that will train you in those things. Sacrifice your own time and money.

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This just means than only rich kids get to have certain jobs. What a society.

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This just means than only rich kids get to have certain jobs. What a society.

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This is such a stupid lazy take. Go get a job and get your kids a better life than you had. Get two jobs and sacrifice until you reach your goals. This generation’s communistic “I want it now and for free” attitude is ridiculous.

You’re saying without the government then scholarships and nonprofits and sponsorships and donations don’t exist?

This is exactly my point. We rely on government to fund these things so we can remain lazy and blind when society should be funding these things ourselves and overseeing them. Government does not replace your responsibility. Passive Tax collection spent by officials is a much different process that you donating your own money on your own accord to the things you support.

Just looked at the list. They cut a lot of engineering, computers, business management, marketing, biology, mining engineering, chemistry, health management, and other trade and STEM stuff. They also cut middle eastern studies (but that was likely one or two professors), some dance and art classes. But mostly they cut the science, engineering and business classes.

These are not the kind of classes that right wingers typically label as useless.

Let people learn what they want to learn.

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No, they are cutting legitimate STEM degrees.

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Which no one is graduating...

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I cannot find a single compelling argument for why a public tax funded university should offer a degree in

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history

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Knowing what happened in the past and why is a great tool when looking to guide future decisions based on similar circumstances. How many times have you had a “great idea” that when researched you found out was tried before and failed because of circumstances you hadn’t considered before?

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philosophy

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Knowing how to structure thoughts, arguments, investigations, and pursuit of knowledge is useless? Philosophy is critical in formation of worldviews and principles that help guide individuals and communities as they live forward. The pursuit of knowledge is always something we should find.

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gender studies

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I got none. Cut it.

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politics

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See history

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general studies

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When I was in school this was 3 minors. You could make this as easy/worthless or as difficult/worthwhile as you wanted. Also, this major requires zero extra funding or schools or professors.

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or art.

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Life without art devolves into brutalist, minimalist, utilitarian dystopias. I’m not sure we need to be publicly funding 1,000’s of art schools, but we should
Publicly fund art in some fashion.

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I cannot find a single compelling argument for why a public tax funded university should offer a degree in history or philosophy or gender studies or politics or “general studies” or art.

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No one will be able to convince you because you have decided that you will never admit that you are convinced.