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re: USNWR 2020 Law School Rankings leaked - LSU drops 12 spots to #100, SULC is #190

Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:55 pm to
Close all law schools for a few years
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:57 pm to
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That’s been the case for a while


I'm no expert, but there's no way to fix this in a year, though some schools do - it's Louisiana at the end of the day. Not shitting on it, but that state has a way of doing things.

Obviously you can't just start making your median GPA a 3.5/6 for admission overnight, but gradually over the next 2-3 years they should start increasing the caliber of student they make an offer of admission to.

I wonder how the 3+3 students factor into it since they don't take an LSAT.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:58 pm to
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Definitely. Though if you were top 25% plus something like law review at UGA, you'd do well in the Mid-Atlantic too.


I agree, although Emory has a better network (or traditionally did) up north, so I guess that can help.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:01 pm to
The SEC school that I noticed to be a big winner in these rankings is Florida. They jumped up 10 spots. Probably on track to be a T30 school next year
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:01 pm to
Alabama may be ranked #25, but the law school building is the ugliest on campus.

That's all I got.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:02 pm to
Alabama has flown up the rankings, both law and otherwise, because they throw money at top performing students. I'm not sure if that's still the MO but as I recall they'd make really appealing offers to some elite students who may be just beyond the cusp of getting similar offers at Vandy/UVA/etc. Think white kids who aren't getting big scholly money at such places but have great #s. Boosts averages while also giving you good taglines - "11 something something scholars in the 2011 class"

Not sure if LSU has that capability at the moment or not.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:04 pm to
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The SEC school that I noticed to be a big winner in these rankings is Florida. They jumped up 10 spots. Probably on track to be a T30 school next year



Makes no sense that they're not IMO. I'm not sure if that's a ranking thing or an underperforming thing, but UF has no reason not to be a top 25 law school. Florida and Georgia are both states that should be focused on getting to the cusp of the national Michigan/Virginia/Texas level when it comes to public schools. They're both big, in good states, with plenty of money and clout.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:08 pm to
The tl;dr from this that I’ve gotten is that white kids with high GPAs and LSATs but got burned from T14 schools because of affirmative action have boosted up Alabama and to an extent Florida because they’re now getting scholarships on merit.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:09 pm to
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Makes no sense that they're not IMO. I'm not sure if that's a ranking thing or an underperforming thing, but UF has no reason not to be a top 25 law school. Florida and Georgia are both states that should be focused on getting to the cusp of the national Michigan/Virginia/Texas level when it comes to public schools. They're both big, in good states, with plenty of money and clout.


Another thing Florida has going for it is a reputation as a great school in the tax law realm. An LLM in tax law from Florida, NYU, and GULC is considered top tier in the field. I’m not into tax law but almost everyone knows it.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Pat Sajak
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:47 pm to
That’s going to sting on his character and fitness evaluation.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:49 pm to
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I love that Emory dropped, but there isn't a firm or clerkship outside of Alabama that would value Alabama more than Emory.
Every year these come out you come in here trying to down play Alabama's ranking. Where did you go and is it ranked lower than Alabama?
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:50 pm to
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LSU Law has had to start taking less qualified students because they need the tuition dollars. That's where the drop in the USNWR rankings is coming from


Sure they are the only school in the country that has this problem, so they are being unfairly criticized, right?
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:46 pm to
Lol SULC law grad here and passed 2 bars on first time, zero debt too, doesn’t matter where you go to school dumbass OP
Posted by Fonzarelli
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:54 pm to
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SULC law grad here


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doesn’t matter where you go to school dumbass OP


I'm sure the Supreme Court was dying to get your clerk application
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:58 pm to
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Every year these come out you come in here trying to down play Alabama's ranking. Where did you go and is it ranked lower than Alabama?



Yes, this year at least

Doesn't change the fact I'm 100% correct. I use Alabama because they may be the most stark example of a school playing the rankings.
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:03 pm to
Really? That’s your argument, GTFO here. I had a job upon graduation and many offers for employment since. Why would I waste my time with a clerkship anywhere? All the while a majority of Tulane, Loyola and LSU grads are drowning in debt.
Posted by Grateful Reb
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:05 pm to
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25. University of Alabama (+2)


Really?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:09 pm to
Yes, and it's been fairly well regarded for quite some time. Not an elite public law school, but near the top for the second tier.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:14 pm to
UGA baby
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:27 pm to
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Yes
Figured.

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Alabama because they may be the most stark example of a school playing the rankings.
They've played the game long enough that perception is becoming reality.
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