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re: USA Today: Girl with inoperable brain tumor healed by prayer. Doctor’s baffled

Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:38 am to
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:38 am to
Glory to God. Prayer works
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2630 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:21 pm to
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So with the average age expectancy continuing to climb is it because god elects to heal more people these days or advancements in technology, science, and medicine?

Also are people expected to live longer in more developed parts of the world because they believe harder?

Seems ridiculous IMO.


Seems like god is electing to heal the shite out of the Japanese and they’re (the majority, at least) not even Christian.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21085 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:22 pm to
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he classic condescending, self-righteous code the catholics live by



not catholic
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:31 pm to
[quote]Also are people expected to live longer in more developed parts of the world because they believe harder? [/quote


The countries with the highest infant mortality rates are all of people of black or brown skin color, is God a racist?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:03 pm to
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-ramblings of a lost, angry, bitter soul.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. You can't even try to say one thing to refute anything I've said so I'm just angry, bitter and lost. Or I don't understand how faith works. Or all the other nonsensical things religious people come up with.


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prayers sent


Thanks for the empty gesture.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:07 pm to
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It was an atheistic, fascist regime killing off Jews, not in the name of religion though...


I'll just leave this here.

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In 1933, 5 years prior to the annexation of Austria into Germany, the population of Germany was approximately 67% Protestant and 33% Catholic, while the Jewish population was less than 1%.

A census in May 1939, six years into the Nazi era[3] and after the annexation of mostly Catholic Austria and mostly Catholic Czechoslovakia[4] into Germany, indicates[5] that 54% considered themselves Protestant, 40% Catholic, 3.5% self-identified as gottgläubig[6] (lit. "believing in God", often described as predominately creationist and deistic),[7][not in citation given] and 1.5% as "atheist".[6]
Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:11 pm to
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So if Jesus got rid of the tumor, does that also mean Jesus gave her the tumor?


How cruel must you be to toy with a young child by giving her a brain tumor, if your plan all along was to eventually take it back.

Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:17 pm to
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Why did God heal her tumor but not the patient's tumor down the hallway who was also praying for their own tumor to go away?


One patient truly believed. The other patient was just pretending to believe in order to scam god into removing the tumor.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21085 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:17 pm to
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In 1933, 5 years prior to the annexation of Austria into Germany, the population of Germany was approximately 67% Protestant and 33% Catholic, while the Jewish population was less than 1%.

A census in May 1939, six years into the Nazi era[3] and after the annexation of mostly Catholic Austria and mostly Catholic Czechoslovakia[4] into Germany, indicates[5] that 54% considered themselves Protestant, 40% Catholic, 3.5% self-identified as gottgläubig[6] (lit. "believing in God", often described as predominately creationist and deistic),[7][not in citation given] and 1.5% as "atheist".[6]



What the citizens self-identified as, and what the Nazi brass believed are 2 different things.

Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, they didn't see themselves as Christians purging the Jews. They were not acting out of religious belief of their own.
Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:36 pm to
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bullshite. Land has been the cause of more bloodshed.


And...who created the land over which the blood was shed?

Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:37 pm to
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My best friend in high school had warts all over his hands. His mom was a RN and did every treatment possible, even lasered the shite off but it came back.


you DO know the science behind warts, don't you?????

apparently not. look it up. i'll wait.
Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:38 pm to
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My best friend in high school had warts all over his hands. His mom was a RN and did every treatment possible, even lasered the shite off but it came back.


you are dumb!!!
Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:42 pm to
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I have not read the 7 pages here but I can tell you this... I witnessed this... My best friend in high school had warts all over his hands. His mom was a RN and did every treatment possible, even lasered the shite off but it came back. I witnessed his warts being "prayed on" and two weeks later they were gone. All of them, not a fricking mark or any evidence they had ever existed. Spirituality is a strange thing. Or maybe just a weird coincidence? I'm not a bible thumper, haven't been inside a church (except for a wedding or funeral) in over 20 years. But I watched that guy's hands get "prayed on" and the warts were gone in days. I have no explanation, only what I personally witnessed.


that is so funny that you have spent your entire life thinking you witnessed a miracle...and all you had to do was tell one learned person or doctor this story and they could have told you what the actual cause of this 'miracle' was.

DM me and i'll explain this 'miracle' to you and ruin your fantasy. or go to the magic machine and ask the google...the google will know the answer as well.

Posted by Derrick From Texas
Sacramento
Member since Aug 2016
357 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 2:50 pm to
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quote:prayers sent you dun did it now baw. The classic condescending, self-righteous code the christians live by


Have a Blessed Day!!!
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:04 pm to
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The Holocaust was religion based


Come on East Coast... that is a terrible take. You see Hitler's Nazi ideology as religious? It certainly wasn't Christian or Jewish based. What about atheist communist Russia and China?

How about that list of 100 million killed from religious wars?
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:26 pm to
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What the citizens self-identified as, and what the Nazi brass believed are 2 different things.


But those citizens comprised the regime. That was who was in the SS, the Wehrmacht, and the Nazi party. So if almost all of the members identified as Christians, how much of an atheistic regime was it really?

Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5367 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 3:49 pm to
Brain tumors are my business and Im looking at them and thinking about them literally every day.

The fact is some DIPGs are more sensitive to radiation than others. Most are not, this one was. It happens. Probably comes back someday, but again, not always. Few things in medicine are 100%.

Because of its location, this is a tumor that is never biopsied. The diagnosis is therefore presumptive, based on the MRI appearance and clinical presentation (history and physical). There are other things that can have the same MRI appearance (again these are very rare situations.) Remote possibility this was never a DIPG in the first place, and a viral encephalitis or something else that resolved, caused the abnormal scans.

One in a million is still one. This stuff does happen.
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 5:53 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 5:41 pm to
Damn, brah ...
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80807 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 8:02 pm to
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And...who created the land over which the blood was shed?
The big bang.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 8:09 pm to
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What are your totals for number of deaths due to religion?


Too large to accurately measure. The numbers from religion slowing advances in science and medicine alone dwarf anything you can pin on anyone else.

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You see Hitler's Nazi ideology as religious? It certainly wasn't Christian or Jewish based. What about atheist communist Russia and China?


Hitler and Stalin happened thanks to religion.

Thanks religion.
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