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re: U.S. poised to forgive $108 billion in student debt

Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16820 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:44 pm to
So people like myself and my wife will still have to keep paying on our student loans since we are in normal repayment plans? I guess we are the chumps paying for everyone else.
Posted by IStandBytheU
Member since Sep 2016
966 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:45 pm to
A lot of the loan forgiveness goes to people working in needed professions in high-need areas.

Otherwise, Obama's big change has been in providing the option of loan repayment as a percentage of monthly income. This is a good thing.

I suspect the cost of loan default in the recent past has been pretty high.
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
14822 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:51 pm to
Loans shouldn't be available if you're majoring in hipster.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 5:52 pm
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27803 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:54 pm to
Well frick me.

I paid for one kids grad and post grad degrees and the second is almost done. Instead of the graduating debt free I could have had them just borrow the money come out with a shite ton of debt that doesn't need to be paid back.

frick I could have saved a few hundred thousand.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:56 pm to
Is your dream for them to have low income jobs for 10+ years after graduating? Because this isn't just blanket forgiveness.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70583 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

Jesus what interest were you paying that lead you to put 90k into those in two years?



10.5 (private school that didn't take federal loans) then qualified for another loan that got us down to 5.75 when we consolidated them.

It was more about not wanting to have that shite hanging over us when we eventually decided to buy a house and have kids.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:11 pm
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3701 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

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You make a great point, but I wish you would learn how to spell 'lose'.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3701 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Don't loose too much sleep over it. They will spend the rest of their lives bailing out boomer pensions, social security and Medicare. You are winning.


You make a great point, but I wish you could spell 'lose'.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:16 pm to
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I don't see a problem in investing in education for Americans. We, as a country, will see a higher ROI than spending 20 Billion in the Middle East fighting wars.


and we can never get enough African American/Women's/Gender Studies majors can we?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47593 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:18 pm to
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In reality, the government TAKES from one group of people and GIVES to others. They get away with this because bleeding heart liberals say things like "i'm glad the government is investing in education, healthcare, cell phones, foreign aid, etc."


Taking money from people who have earned it and giving it to people who haven't. It's the liberal way.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:25 pm to
The whole student govt debt racket is designed to funnel tax money into another leftist dominated industry.

Colleges don't exactly have to knock themselves out controlling costs when govt loan money laundered through students is there to pay everything
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43616 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:55 pm to
IBR? PLSF? Have no idea what you are talking about. I was paying the limit plus some over principle to knock it out. This loan was to pay for my Masters from LSU. I graduated in 96 and started making payments when I was making $18,500/year from EBR School System. When I stated making bank when I left teaching, I got aggressive paying it down.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171949 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:57 pm to
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Nothing like giving millennials even more of a reason to be a smarmy, entitled, worthless group of people


I'm a millennial and never had a dime of student debt. Been working for 10 years now out of high school. Suck it, old man.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43616 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:59 pm to
You're one of few. Congrats.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:59 pm to
Then this may have actually impacted you. This isn't just blanket forgiveness for everyone. This an accounting of the expected forgiveness from pre-existing programs designed to help those with low income leaving college.

Most people in this thread talking about "OMG why didn't I take loans" would never have been impacted by that
Posted by hans
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
53 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

quote:There are a couple problems here. 1. The cost of college is way too high because they're run by bloated govt bureaucracies so most of the problem lies with the govt itself. 2. Paying for some retard to get a degree in art history or gender studies is not an investment. It's pissing away taxpayer money. So restrict access and offer degree programs as dictated by industry. Don't have enough doctors? Offer to pay their school bill, on the condition they work in certain sectors for a certain time. Don't have enough welders/carpenters? Put the higher education dollars in votech programs. The money should go to where the jobs will be, not where the students want to go.


sounds like communism to me.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43616 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:05 pm to
I'll just ask my accountant about this during tax season. I am done paying it off. If anything, I do believe it helped my credit score which is really high...when we got my wife her new Pilot, the bank told me my credit ranking is pretty impressive, so I have that going for me.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:11 pm to
If you've paid yours off (or aren't making 18k/year) this won't help you.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
43616 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:17 pm to
Lulz, no...when I first got out...I was making $18,500 teaching. I taught for 3 years. and moved on. Let's say, I would make that in bonuses in 2 quarters
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6432 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:53 pm to
Would be interesting to see the breakdown on professions/degrees of those whos loan will be eligible for forgiveness when talking about these numbers. Especially for those who will have loans forgiven with PLSF.

I know several.colleagues who are paying into the system/IBR during residency/fellowship as opposed to doing forbearance as years done in residency/fellowship count towards to the 10yr PLSF requirements.

I.e. those doing neurosurgery(7 years + fellowship), cardiology EP or interventional(8-9years) are paying minimal.payments (relative to what their eventually salary would be) over those years and have a significant amount of the loan forgiven(debt of 200k+)

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