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re: U.S. consumers buck investors' rush to self-driving cars : study
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:34 pm to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:34 pm to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:39 pm to Emiliooo
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The cons that I can think of is just people unwilling to let go of driving and people not trusting in the technology.
I just don't understand how it is feasible unless EVERYONE adopts it, and even then, I cannot see the public giving up any manual driving capabilities.
I have an almost 2 year old car that has accident avoidance and a "smart" cruise setting - they both basically keep your car on the road and you just need to steer and stop at red lights. However, both of those functions are incredibly risk averse, to the point of being inconvenient sometimes. The vehicle basically panics like a kid in driver's ed when another vehicle gets close.
If the tech cannot get fast enough to adjust for other vehicles/objects that are not "on the grid" so to speak, then you're going to have to force everyone on the grid. I just do not see people giving up complete control of their vehicles in case of emergency and other situations where manual override would be necessary.
In my lifetime about the most I expect is an automated HOV lane of sorts on interstates.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:40 pm to LucasP
Definitely. Why would insurance companies need to settle for a pittance slinging comp and collision when they could be bringing in the big bucks selling "My car just got hacked/went crazy" insurance?
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:41 pm to No Colors
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Funded by the legacy car companies who's model is about to be obsolete. GM and Ford will not exist in 20 years, because they're behind this thing, instead of in front of it.
You probably think Exxon Mobil and Chevron will be goners when green energy takes off too. If wind power is the most efficient source of energy in 20 years, the biggest players will be the same energy companies that we have now.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:54 pm to slackster
kinda how I feel about it. Googles car has the ability to adjust for non automated cars but I still don't see the technology being adopted by most people for a good 25 to 30 years. Hopefully I am wrong.
and I can promise people aren't going to give up classic cars nor street racing. Not going to happen.
and I can promise people aren't going to give up classic cars nor street racing. Not going to happen.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:27 pm to lsu777
Your self driving car observes BLM protesters in the road. It's choices are:
Run them over
Stop and let them surround you
Turn you off the road into a guardrail.
One of the choices kills you and one puts you in direct straits. The car will obviously be programmed to cause fewest injuries and deaths.
No thank you. I am running those frickers over.
Run them over
Stop and let them surround you
Turn you off the road into a guardrail.
One of the choices kills you and one puts you in direct straits. The car will obviously be programmed to cause fewest injuries and deaths.
No thank you. I am running those frickers over.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:44 pm to Jim Rockford
I actually participated in the survey for this. I put down that I was all for it. I would love for it to take over in rush hour so I can relax and to help lower insurance rates due to some many idiots on the road. It would also be great on long trips. For the rest of the time I would prefer to drive myself as I actually enjoy driving.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:48 pm to Jim Rockford
I've found the only people concerned about self-driving cars are old people and idiots
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:09 pm to DaTroof
There are many people who enjoy driving. Would older vehicles be banished? One of my favorite things to do is just cruising.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:49 pm to MoonrakerElite
Many of you are naive. With automation comes control. If the govt decides to "pull you over" the can simply stop your car and lock the doors so you can't get out.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:08 pm to Jim Rockford
My girlfriend's dad has a Tesla S and that thing already practically drives itself. It's a little strange to think about but I look forward to self driving cars.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:09 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:yeah ok
U.S. consumers still resist the notion of self-driving cars,
I'm on the self-driving car bandwagon the day I can afford to be
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:10 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:and Ford has a partnership with Google to manufacture them
As the article notes, GM has invested $1 billion in acquiring a driverless technology startup.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:14 pm to baytiger
I imagine the push back will be from insurance companies more so than manufacturers
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:27 pm to Dire Wolf
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I imagine the push back will be from insurance companies more so than manufacturers
They'll still be needed though, at the minimum for comprehensive type stuff. Additionally, even if your car prevents you from running into objects, it can't do a damn thing about an object running into you.
That is my biggest "gripe" with automated cars - the AI and its priorities. Will it prioritize all human life equally or will it specifically focus on the safety of the occupants in the vehicle? Even more specifically, will it prioritize within the vehicle (children take priority over adults, etc.)?
Will the AI drive onto the sidewalk to avoid an accident, or will it calculate that the lowest overall risk of human injury is to stay the course and injure the occupants instead of bystanders? What will it do when an idiot runs a red light?
Not many of us can make a conscious decision quick enough to decide those things ourselves, but subconsciously it happens often. The idea that people will give up control in that minute instance to an algorithm seems a bit naïve.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:42 pm to Nado Jenkins83
It is a scary proposition to say the least. Perhaps that makes me a selfish a-hole, but in a moment of life or death, I'd prefer my instincts and subconscious over that of an algorithm. I think it is pretty clear that if this happens for the mainstream that the AI will prioritize public and overall safety over those of the occupants of the car.
Even if you flip the scenario around, it is still worrisome. What if the safest thing to do is to run over a pedestrian instead of trying to avoid her? What if "her" is a 4 year old?
People like to shun those who are cautious about automated vehicles but they've go no answer for these types of questions because they're not even asking them. All they see is a chauffeur and the ability to sleep on the way to work, and I don't blame them, but there are serious issues at play too. As I said earlier, I think an automated lane or two on the interstate or major highways is plausible in the next 15-20 years, but widespread automated vehicles in a neighborhood or driving down main street are farther away than people think, at least IMO.
Even if you flip the scenario around, it is still worrisome. What if the safest thing to do is to run over a pedestrian instead of trying to avoid her? What if "her" is a 4 year old?
People like to shun those who are cautious about automated vehicles but they've go no answer for these types of questions because they're not even asking them. All they see is a chauffeur and the ability to sleep on the way to work, and I don't blame them, but there are serious issues at play too. As I said earlier, I think an automated lane or two on the interstate or major highways is plausible in the next 15-20 years, but widespread automated vehicles in a neighborhood or driving down main street are farther away than people think, at least IMO.
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 4:29 pm to Upperdecker
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I've found the only people concerned about self-driving cars are old people and idiots
I'm certainly going to trust the judgment of the young people who are so easily hoodwinked into taking out huge school loans for liberal arts degrees.
Self driving cars sound great but many of the advantages, like smooth flow on the interstate, won't happen unless everyone has a self-driving car. Another problem - a few weeks ago, my GPS told me to turn the wrong way on a one way street. Human intervention stopped a dangerous situation.
Having concerns about self-driving cars does not mean that you are opposed to them.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 4:54 pm to Jim Rockford
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U.S. consumers still resist the notion of self-driving cars
Which consumers are those?
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