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re: U.S. Army War College publishes paper on "lessons learned" from Russo-Ukrainian War

Posted on 9/16/23 at 8:28 am to
Posted by Witty_Username
Member since Jul 2021
625 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 8:28 am to
Robot combat dogs coming to a battlefield near you.

Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
Member since Dec 2012
51301 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 8:31 am to
Go woke go broke, conscription would lead to civil war
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137036 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 8:32 am to
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No one ever said that there was a good ROI for the american tax payer.

Like I said we're pretty shitty at imperialism (I guess I should've specified the imperialism that has taken place traditionally over the last 3000 years and not the 21st century version)
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
69293 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:06 am to
I sincerely hope the Army War College didn’t just now figure out the difference between casualty rates of low-intensity wars fighting insurgencies like what we fought in Iraq & Afghanistan from high-intensity wars between fully mechanized national armies.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3584 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:08 am to
It will take a nuclear strike to get the U.S. proper officially “boots on ground” in Ukraine.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75081 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:10 am to
Maybe if they stopped worrying about stupid shite and turned back into a literal killing machine we wouldn't need all this shite.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75081 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:13 am to
Also why would I want my kid to sign and die for the likes of Joe Biden, Lindsay Graham, Pelosi, or Mitch McConnell. I'm a simple man, but I feel like every day I'm getting pushed more and more into a corner, and I know I'm not the only one. Those fricking fools in Washington need to realize that cornered animals lash out.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
53112 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:16 am to
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Imagine being forced against your will to fight for the regime running this country.


Exactly why Russia is having problems in Ukraine
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
3825 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:24 am to
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Their findings conclude that the United States military is not ready for large scale combat operations and that partial conscription maybe required due to the "obsolescence" of the all-volunteer design developed during the 1970s and 1980s.


Like they would actually release ALL the information. USA is still #1 and would crush anyone!
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121511 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:25 am to
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All the best officers get out as Captains and move on to the civilian sector because they get sick of dealing with the bureaucratic nonsense of the military. Our field grade level and up officer corps is filled with mediocrity.
Ouch
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:28 am to
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You think there will be less robotics in the future of the army? Not sure where you get your information


In less than 30 minutes, Russia, China, and the US can put each other's military back in WWII mode, without going nuclear.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2539 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:28 am to
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The government uses tax payer money to fund the military to attack or over throw countries. Then private companies get lucrative deals. No one ever said that there was a good ROI for the american tax payer. Thats part of the scam.


That article references deals in 2012. How long do private companies have to wait to sign contracts after a war has ended?

2nd, the primary company mentioned is Royal Dutch Shell, a Dutch company. If it was so nefarious wouldn't it all be all US companies? (exxon, Chevron, etc..)
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36446 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:34 am to
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I sincerely hope the Army War College didn’t just now figure out the difference between casualty rates of low-intensity wars fighting insurgencies like what we fought in Iraq & Afghanistan from high-intensity wars between fully mechanized national armies.
I read it as more of an acknowledgement that there is no 'peace dividend' anymore, if there ever was.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2175 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:36 am to
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Shouldn’t have never gotten rid of the draft. It needs to be brought back as quickly as possible.


Why?

You think we need more cannon fodder to enrich the MIC even more?
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4930 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:56 am to
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The military clearly stated by their actions there is no longer a place for straight, white, men.


When people say this I really don't know what they're talking about. The military is mostly straight, white, men.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137036 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 9:59 am to
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When people say this I really don't know what they're talking about. The military is mostly straight, white, men.



The head of the US Army has overtly stated that he's looking for white supremacy/domestic white terrorism under every stone.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/16/23 at 10:06 am to
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Ouch


Present company excluded of course
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/16/23 at 10:09 am to
Posted by UnrealMFer
Georgia
Member since Aug 2023
145 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 10:10 am to
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I read this as if it's Brian Kelly saying we need to force all the 5 stars to come to LSU if we want to win.


Sounds like an effective way to win games and wars to me.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 10:12 am to
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The next time someone in the military says that the military is prepared, over supplied, and properly trained will be the first time.

All the war college does is complain about not enough money, training, or tool.



I mean...it's the peace time army and the military is currently gearing up for a potential war against China that they think will kick off before the end of the decade. Historically speaking, the peace time military is woefully unprepared for a full scale military conflict between first world powers.

The United States Army, at present, has the following manpower resources at their direct disposal:

- 452,689 active duty personnel
- 324,019 National Guard personnel
- 176,968 Army Reserve personnel

That's fewer than 1,000,000 uniformed personnel of all types. The vast majority of them aren't frontline personnel.

The U.S. Navy is also looking pretty rough. There are currently 400,000 uniformed personnel in the navy, of which over one-quarter aren't active duty, crewing fewer than 300 ships. And this is the branch we are going to have to depend upon the most to defeat China in a hypothetical war.


Just as a comparison: in 1945 the United States had over 16 million men and women in uniform. In 2023 that number is about 1.4 million.
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