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re: Update on the proposed City of St. George

Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:58 am to
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53816 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:58 am to
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Remind me.... what are the public schools and crime rates in Zachary and central? 

Zachary and Central schools are light years ahead of BR non magnet schools
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39230 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:00 am to
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St. George is just a pathetic ruse for racist


Ohh?
quote:

honkies


quote:

racist

Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7840 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:23 am to
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. We had no major complaints about the public school options, both neighborhood schools and the gifted and talented programs (all went in to HS at BRMHS or McKinley). We lived in the proposed St George area (Lake at Whit Oak) until we moved a couple of years ago and were opposed to creating the new city then and remain opposed today.


Another Magnet school parent who opposes St. George. So what you're really saying is that your kids have their golden ticket for superior schools punched, and you really don't give a crap about the other kids who don't qualify for G/T or Magnet schools.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7840 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:35 am to
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St. George is just a pathetic ruse for racist honkies to try and take public schools away from everyone so their kids don't have to go to school with brown kids.


That weak troll got us an additional 100 signatures, THANKS!
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:57 am to
dear lord, I hope this St George thing really happens. We’d be there in a heartbeat if it’s done right. Pretty sure it’ll be done right.
Posted by seeinspots
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1101 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:04 pm to
No, you wont. And people, tourists, businesses, industry wont flock here for it, either.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:26 pm to
That is because the NBR economic development district is on the ball attracting tourism at the BR Zoo, businesses, and with the great schools the large amount of new residential developments.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43069 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:30 pm to
May I ask where do you live?
In SG? Do you have kids in s magnet program? What's your real beef?
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:33 pm to
St George doesn’t need industry or tourists. What are tourists gonna do go visit everyone’s new houses and good public schools? All the industry already exists 10 mins away in Baton Rouge fool.
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:37 pm to
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May I ask where do you live?
In SG? Do you have kids in s magnet program? What's your real beef?



Here's his reasoning --

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Because I live here and call it home. And, I care. I want to see our region (and LA) grow into something that could attract outside interest. St G won't bring in the business/industry to grow the region. You are dealing with near stagnant population growth (outside of New Orleans). This whole region has to come together with a master plan (one that includes everything from schools, bridge(s), other infrastructure, zoning, etc. St G is a patch that won't fix the underlying issue plaguing Baton Rouge.


Yet neither he, nor the other naysayers, nor the current higher-ups in the parish, have any plans or alternatives.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43069 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:43 pm to
I've lived in EBR over sixty year. I remember when NBR was a solid part of BR. What's happening now is a slow rot. If it isn't addressed it will eventually kill the parish.

Educating our kids in their neighborhoods is key. We can't build magnet schools for everyone. We have to provide for those who can't qualify for magnets or afford private and we have to separate those that are there to learn from those who don't want to learn.

An ISD helps in this regard. A clean, safe city helps nurture good education and will compete with other areas to keep good folks "home".
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2642 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:14 pm to
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No, you wont. And people, tourists, businesses, industry wont flock here for it, either.


I own 2+ acres in St George and would build a house & move back from Houston within months of this happening, since all my family is there.

So I see your unfounded pessimism and raise you a real-world rebuttal.
Posted by seeinspots
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1101 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:26 pm to
Another one with skills lacking in reading comprehension. And, lacking the tools for a higher level of critical thought beyond " we gonna build it and they comin".
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:30 pm
Posted by seeinspots
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1101 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:27 pm to
No, you won't.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39230 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:28 pm to
Still waiting on you to explain how keeping the status quo is better in the long run.

Find it odd you still haven’t explained that one yet
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:52 pm to
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Another one with skills lacking in reading comprehension. And, lacking the tools for a higher level of critical thought beyond " we gonna build it and they comin".


I think you’re misunderstanding the motivation for the people who want to create SG. As far as I can tell, they’re not trying to save LA, or the region, or even Baton Rouge proper. They’re trying to save their own neighborhoods, because that’s pretty much all they can do.

An old boss of mine once told me, “When you’re in charge, you can make people do a lot of things, but the one thing you can’t make them do is give a s***”. If you live in Baton Rouge and the surrounding areas, that’s basically the situation. You live in the same area with lots of people who don’t give a s***. You can’t do anything about that except try to make your own part of the area better.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:00 pm to
I don't think it's that they don't give a shite about the state of the city. I think it's more that they are so wrapped up in wanting a spot in office, that they bypass logic and reason to avoid stepping on the toes of those who will be voting for them. I think this goes on at all levels of politics to a certain degree, but in this city (Baton Rouge) it's the only thing they go by - progress and improvement be damned. That, and mishandling funds and/or tax money.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43069 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:02 pm to
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Another one with skills lacking in reading comprehension. And, lacking the tools for a higher level of critical thought beyond " we gonna build it and they comin".



Do you live in SG? Do your kids go to a magnet or a gifted school?
We know you are a concerned citizen and you love BR and you want us all to work together.

I'm stupid. Educate me.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:10 pm to
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I don't think it's that they don't give a shite about the state of the city. I think it's more that they are so wrapped up in wanting a spot in office, that they bypass logic and reason to avoid stepping on the toes of those who will be voting for them. I think this goes on at all levels of politics to a certain degree, but in this city (Baton Rouge) it's the only thing they go by - progress and improvement be damned. That, and mishandling funds and/or tax money.


I’m talking about the constituents. Politicians gonna politician, I agree with that.

The thing is, this whole SG deal basically comes down to two things: schools and crime. Crappy schools and high crime rates are both functions of lousy/nonexistent parenting done on a large scale. And unfortunately, they’re is a disproportionate amount of people in Baton Rouge who are practitioners of this and are perfectly fine with the outcome (crap schools and high crime).
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2642 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:42 pm to
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No, you won't


So is it beyond the realm of possibility in your mind that I may own a lot in the St George area? How about having family back in BR?
Can you handle that scenario?

If you can't handle that, then congratulations on the complete sentence.

If you are willing to believe that a person such as I can both own land and wish to build a home close to family, why would you dispute my rebuttal?

Think bigger than you are.
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