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Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:47 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Says the close-minded bigot to the eyewitness.
Who's a closed minded bigot? Please rationaly dispute what I posted.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:47 pm to DawgfaninCa
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I've had several experts examine my videos who concluded they contain images of several sea serpents.
Honest question: how does one conclude that something is a species that has never been examined before? It seems like the only logical conclusions that they could reach is to identify it as a known animal or call it inconclusive.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:34 pm to DawgfaninCa
Those are fake. The Alien at Wright Patterson AFB is taller than that with a bigger (by at least 40%) head.
He has assured everyone that there are no aliens shorter then him.
He is happy and content to be there as long as the strawberry ice cream holds out, so why would he lie.
By the way, he thinks Superman is a joke. Another fact, he has seen creatures very similar to the hulk.
He has assured everyone that there are no aliens shorter then him.
He is happy and content to be there as long as the strawberry ice cream holds out, so why would he lie.
By the way, he thinks Superman is a joke. Another fact, he has seen creatures very similar to the hulk.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:51 pm to Kcrad
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Post it up.
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An oarfish has a red serrated mane running down its entire length on the top of its body which can be seen in your photo.
The animal we saw had no mane at all along the upper body and midsection of the body.
An oarfish is silver in color with some black spots which can be seen in your photo.
The animal we saw was black in color the entire length of its upper body which we estimated was at least 30 feet.
The midsection was black on top then changed colors along the sides from a mossy green to a grassy green then to a yellow green where the sides of the midsection met the underbelly.
The rear body was the same color black as the upper body.
An oarfish has a thin uniform in length body and no underbelly.
The animal we saw has a tubular shaped upper body then it widens where the midsection begins and then where the rear portion begins it tapers towards the tail.
The midsection has a padded, leathery underbelly which is whitish in color with a slight tint of yellow. It is segmented and the edges where each segment ends and begins created a distinct line that was easily seen.
An oarfish has a big round eye on each side of its head which you can see in your photo,
The animal we saw had two eyes in the front of its head which were set back beneath some kind of brow.
An oarfish has a tapering beak-like pointed snout which can be seen in your photo.
The animal we saw had a snout similar to a German Shepard's snout except the animal's snout was not pointed like the end of a German Shepard's snout. Instead, it had a squared off snout with two slightly oval shaped nostrils at the front end of it that were about the size of a man's fist.
An oarfish does not have fan-like fins that open and close.
The animal we saw had fan-like fins on the sides of the beginning and end of the midsection which opened and closed.
An oarfish does not have hexagonal shaped scales.
The animal we saw has hexagonal shaped scales on its midsection which varied in size with the smallest being at the top, the beginning and end of the midsection and getting larger in size the closer they got closer to the center of the midsection with the largest scales being at the center of the midsection where the midsection met the edge of the underbelly.
An oarfish does not have large jowls.
The animal we saw has large jowls similar to a horse's jowls.
An oarfish swims using slight horizontal undulations like can be seen in your photo.
The animal we saw swims using vertical undulations and at times creates radical vertical undulations which can be seen in the drawing of the upper body that we posted.
An oarfish cannot raise its body above the surface of the water straight up in the air.
The animal we saw raised its body above the surface of the water approximately 10 feet straight up in the air.
An oarfish only comes to the surface when it is sick or dying.
The animal we saw was chasing a sea lion so it was very healthy and trying to get something to eat.
That's just some of the differences between an oarfish and the animal my brother and I saw.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:33 pm to northshorebamaman
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I've had several experts examine my videos who concluded they contain images of several sea serpents.
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Honest question: how does one conclude that something is a species that has never been examined before? It seems like the only logical conclusions that they could reach is to identify it as a known animal or call it inconclusive.
By eliminating all known marine animals, birds and inanimate objects as a possible candidate for the black objects in the video based a close examination of all of the data contained in the video.
Here's how Bruce Champagne explained it in his paper:
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Multiple species of sea birds frequent the area. It has been proposed that the images in the video are those of birds flying proximate to the surface of the water or stationed on the surface of the water (Fredericks, 2005). Birds are recorded on the video, mostly passing through the frame at a nearer proximity to the observers. Robert Clark is also heard to make recorded comments on the video incorrectly suggesting the possibility of birds as the objects being recorded, as he had previously observed birds flying in single file above the surface of the water, but not at the greater distance as that of the recorded images. William Clark, who was recording the animals and had the advantage viewing the targets through the zoom lens, immediately disagreed with the suggestion. A bird is identifiable and recorded passing through the frame left-to-right at greater distance with a normal, wide field of view at the approximate time of 01:42 on the video. A second bird is identifiable and recorded passing through the frame right-to-left at the approximate time of 02:01 on the video with a normal, wide field of view. In each instance, the birds are in the lower 1/3 of the frame and appear to be closer to the observers than the target image(s). For birds to be visible at the observed distance, would require the elimination of smaller species as possible candidates for identification, and if observed at a closer distance, to provide an image size comparable to that of the recorded birds in the foreground, would likely record recognizable characteristics, and behaviors.
The largest, and most appropriate species of bird fir consideration as possible candidates for the recorded images, include the White Pelican (Pelecanus erythrorynchos), Brown Pelican (Pelecanus occidentalis), Cormorants (Phalarocoras sp.), Black Footed Albatross (Diomedea nigripes), and gulls (Larus sp.). None of these species attain the size necessary (McConnaughey, 1988) for practical consideration, when compared to the size estimates of the recorded images (Paiva and Slusher, 2005) or have a swimming motion and/or capability consistent with the water displacement and morphology observed from the images of the videotape.
If the birds are considered as images proximate to, but not on, the surface of the water, the White Pelican's wingspan may place it within the required size range of the recorded segments/images, but the track-line upon which the images move and are observed would not display the pelican's wingspan as would be required for acceptance within the known size parameters. Additionally, for the pelicans, or any other large bird, to even approximate the required size range(s) and speed, would require the birds to fly with their wings continuously extended, suggesting flight above the air/water interface. In this condition and position, the observed water displacement is not satisfactorily explained.
At approximately 00:14 in the Clark video, two oscillating, or "looping" movements can be observed. The segments to the left of the centered images appear to cross the shore margin (Cook suggested this may be due to temperature differences between the two surface types, as known stationary objects also appear to change shape) only to abruptly change direction while continuing this revised, direction and continued motion in the precise segment order and reverse angle. At a distance, a flock of birds, especially the White Pelican (Wernert, 1982), may be able to present the image of single file formation, but would be unable, either as individuals or as a formation, to instantly reverse direction and maintain individual position within the formation, and the original observed angle of the formation."
In other words, for the reasons given, Champagne eliminated birds as a possible candidate for the images in the video.
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Cetaceans are also known to enter San Francisco Bay. Most frequently observed are Grey Whales (Phocoena phocoena) and Harbor Porpoises (Lagenorhychus obliquidens). Less frequently observed are Pacific White-sided Dolphins (Lagenorhynchus phocoena) and the Dalls' Porpoise (Phoc oen oides dalli). Occasionally, Humpback Whales (Megaptera novaeangliae) have entered the bay and associated waterways.
The largest measured images in the Clark video are within the known ranges of both Grey and Humpback Whales. Whales are also known to breach the surface at a height comparable to that measured by the animals in the video. However, the animals in the Clark video maintain an extended position above the surface for approximately 2.5 sec., and continue to maintain a lower position above the surface without submerging below the air/water interface. The periscope behavior exhibited by the images on the video is likely a deliberate and controlled behavior which appears to be in excess of the known capabilities of larger cetaceans as they are unable to control their mass from falling below the air/water interface after breaching. Additionally, if the track line segments in the video are considered only visible parts of one unit for inclusion within the known size ranges of the larger cetaceans, the flexibility exhibited in the images in the Clark video do not appear to be within the range of flexure of either species of whale. If the image segments are considered independent animals, the grouping would be inconsistent with known mysticete group behavior relevant to this sequence (Walker, 1962). The "spyhopping" behavior displayed by some whale species may produce a similar appearance as that of the images in the video. However, the "spyhopping" behavior is a stationary surface display and is not consistent with the movement displayed by the images in the video. Exhalations, or "blows" could be identified at the distances involved in the video (Personal Observation), but these predictable and lingering exhalations are not observed in the video, as would be expected.
The smallest segments of the recorded images are within the known size ranges of both the Pacific White-sided Dolphin and Dall's Porpoise. However, the swimming motions and behaviors, both individually and grouped, are not consistent with the known behavior of either species. Because the behaviors and capabilities of the Clark video images are not consistent with the known abilities and/or behaviors of cetaceans species frequenting the area, it is proposed that the video images are not those of a known cetacean.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:54 pm to Enadious
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Says the close-minded bigot to the eyewitness.
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Who's a closed minded bigot?
You are.
You posted:
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There are no such things as sea serpents.
"Close-minded" is defined as, "having a mind firmly unreceptive to new ideas or arguments".
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"Bigot" is defined as, "a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion."
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Saying that there are no such things as sea serpents makes you a close-minded bigot.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:00 pm to DawgfaninCa
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I've got the proof but I don't need to prove it to a closed-minded bigot like you.
You're pathetic
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:04 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Saying that there are no such things as sea serpents makes you a close-minded bigot.
I'm not close minded to things are real. There are no bigfoots, aliens, fairies, or sea serpents because there is zero definitive evidence. All it would take is 1 piece of definitive evidence for me to believe and sadly you can't offer that.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:04 pm to 1BamaRTR
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You're pathetic
Says the close-minded bigot to the eyewitness.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:06 pm to Enadious
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I'm not close minded to things are real. There are no bigfoots, aliens, fairies, or sea serpents because there is zero definitive evidence.
Says the close-minded bigot to the eyewitness with definitive evidence.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:08 pm to DawgfaninCa
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By eliminating all known marine animals, birds and inanimate objects as a possible candidate for the black objects in the video based a close examination of all of the data contained in the video.
He didn't conclude it was a sea serpent in that text.
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However, the swimming motions and behaviors, both individually and grouped, are not consistent with the known behavior of either species. Because the behaviors and capabilities of the Clark video images are not consistent with the known abilities and/or behaviors of cetaceans species frequenting the area, it is proposed that the video images are not those of a known cetacean.
He states it's not consistent with the known behaviors and capabilities of wildlife in the area which is one of the possible logical conclusions that I listed. That's not the same thing as concluding that it's a sea serpent.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:25 pm to DawgfaninCa
Fake!
Your video, while intriguing, looked nothing like real ones as shown on Sigmond’s sea Monster.

Your video, while intriguing, looked nothing like real ones as shown on Sigmond’s sea Monster.

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Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:07 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Says the close-minded bigot to the eyewitness.
I didn't say sea-serpents didn't exist. I'm saying you're full of it. I asked for evidence and you said there's no point in showing it. Whenever this was on the poli board you kept deflecting.
And so what if you're an eyewitness? It doesn't prove you saw what you think you saw.
You're a little too "open minded" and too quick to believe.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 10/12/17 at 5:20 am to DawgfaninCa
Only one way to settle this dispute between the government and the researchers.......


Posted on 10/12/17 at 5:26 am to DawgfaninCa
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DawgfaninCa
I've never clicked on Any of your threads, but if this one is like all the others, then you're not helping yourself or you case(s).
It's just sad.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:31 am to MeridianDog
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Those are fake. The Alien at Wright Patterson AFB is taller than that with a bigger (by at least 40%) head
This may be funny, but :Morganfreemanfinger:
On that note, that was some wishy washy soft disclosure yesterday...
Basically, UFOs are real shite, we're going to exploit it.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 6:40 am to DawgfaninCa
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“Scientists have discredited our findings without even looking at the remains.”
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scientists who say that the mummified remains were ‘altered’ to look like aliens.
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Scientists said how the bodies were ‘created’ using mummified human remains,
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Maussan responded saying: “The attitude of the government, the Ministry of Culture, is really to reject these findings, it is very disturbing… the real victim here is the truth.
“People around the world deserve the truth about this.
“They are trying to stop this, they are fearful this could be true and we will have to rewrite the books of history, everything we know could change and that is too fearful for many people.
“Even without the bodies, they are saying this is not true.
“This is physical evidence in the hands of society for the first time, and they want to take that away from us.”
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Peruvian scientists and the government saying it was a criminal hoax

Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:06 am to DawgfaninCa
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Hmmmm, the reaction by the scientific community and the Peruvian government to the Peruvian "alien" mummies is strangely similar to the reaction my brother and I have gotten from the scientific community and the US government to our sightings and videos of sea serpents in SF Bay.
I know you and your brother saw the SS get stuck while having coffee in 85 but how do you explain it not happening again since smartphones have become a normal thing? Do you think the SS died?
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