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Posted on 7/29/17 at 4:00 pm to themasterpater
I was 27 years old in 2000 working a desk job for the city of Baton Rouge after I graduated college. I then joined the Army, went to Basic-OCS-OBC. all completed in less than a year. Made the decision to get out after 6 years because I wanted to get married and have a family and my path at the time had me all over the world. Still a great experience and I encourage you to go officer. You can find great opportunities as others have mentioned with your background. Also being a Platoon Leader is literally the greatest job I have ever had.
Explore every branch before making a decision.
Explore every branch before making a decision.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 5:04 pm to themasterpater
A guy in my unit (Air National Guard) enlisted at 36 and he loves it. He's traditional, but can go active whenever he wants. At least in Guard terms, it's considered AGR (Active Guard Reserve). As far as going active Air Force or Air Force Reserve, I'm not sure of the cut off age but the Air National Guard is 39. Our unit has deployed twice since 2014 as well so the opportunity to go down range will be there.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 5:39 pm to themasterpater
I understand what you're looking for, and I would agree with the pros and cons you listed. Remember, Enlisted members lead also. What branch and career field you choose would heavily dictate the level of politics you face. My time enlisted was very rewarding and the comraderie was second to none. Being an officer has its perks, as you outlined. I just think that overall there is too much collateral bullshite within the officer corps, but I'd rather that than not serve at all
Posted on 7/29/17 at 6:36 pm to USAFLSUTIGER
Thanks man. I assume you're in or were in the AF. When did you join? What did/do you do?
Posted on 7/29/17 at 7:53 pm to themasterpater
Serve with a guy that got in at 28 when when I was in my 10th year in the service.
You'll be fine.
You'll be fine.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 9:02 pm to themasterpater
Didn't read all ten pages before writing, but I don't see it in the first five pages.
Make sure you are OK with the pay scales before you decide to join.
As a 2LT you will have a base pay of around $30K a year. When you are 50 years old and at peak of your career you will be making just over $100K in today's dollars. Yes, there are other benefits such as BAS and BAQ and free medical insurance also, but from my experience those benefits don't make up the difference in benefits that you receive working for a good company as a civilian.
If you go the enlisted route than you will have a base pay of $25k per year as an E-4 (since you will enlist with a degree) and will probably end your career making $65K a year in today's dollars.
Many have already mentioned that there are several cool jobs that you can get but as an officer you have very little control over getting these really "cool" jobs. Sure you can be a 2LT Platoon Leader in a Ranger Regiment, but you could also end up having a career as a Finance, Quartermaster, Ordinance, or some other officer in a combat support unit.
20 years ago it seemed that ROTC and OCS commissioned officers rarely got one of their Top 3 choices for branch assignments. Also know that most agreements that you sign up for with Uncle Sam will also have the caveat of "or needs of the Army."
Do your research before you decide to join and know that you will put up with a ton of stupid bullshite to satisfy that craving to do something patriotic.
With that said I do not regret the five years that I served and wouldn't change it if I could.
Make sure you are OK with the pay scales before you decide to join.
As a 2LT you will have a base pay of around $30K a year. When you are 50 years old and at peak of your career you will be making just over $100K in today's dollars. Yes, there are other benefits such as BAS and BAQ and free medical insurance also, but from my experience those benefits don't make up the difference in benefits that you receive working for a good company as a civilian.
If you go the enlisted route than you will have a base pay of $25k per year as an E-4 (since you will enlist with a degree) and will probably end your career making $65K a year in today's dollars.
Many have already mentioned that there are several cool jobs that you can get but as an officer you have very little control over getting these really "cool" jobs. Sure you can be a 2LT Platoon Leader in a Ranger Regiment, but you could also end up having a career as a Finance, Quartermaster, Ordinance, or some other officer in a combat support unit.
20 years ago it seemed that ROTC and OCS commissioned officers rarely got one of their Top 3 choices for branch assignments. Also know that most agreements that you sign up for with Uncle Sam will also have the caveat of "or needs of the Army."
Do your research before you decide to join and know that you will put up with a ton of stupid bullshite to satisfy that craving to do something patriotic.
With that said I do not regret the five years that I served and wouldn't change it if I could.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 9:18 pm to themasterpater
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What if you enlisted as an older guy? Pros? Cons? I do have a degree, but not sure if I'd want to be an officer.
Well if you like Formations, KP, Guard Duty and such, do not be an Officer.
Personally I would do Flight School all over again, and there are only a few things in my life I would do again. You will meet the finest people, along with some jerks, but hey nothing is perfect.
P.S. My father gave me a piece of advice that served me well when deciding to join. "Son, take all your flight physicals and all your written flight tests first, whatever is needed to qualify for the training you want, have the recruiter show you a set of orders with your name and a date for the school you wish to attend, when you have done all that, then you SIGN UP."
I met a lot of folks along the way who were going to do those physicals and flight evaluation tests AFTER they were IN. Never saw them again.
This post was edited on 7/29/17 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:04 pm to themasterpater
Quality of life for an officer is hands down better than quality of life for an enlisted soldier.
Single enlisted guys will be stuck in the barracks rooming with the person they are told to room with and eating in the mess hall since your barracks room won't have a kitchen. You don't care for your roommate tough shite. Single officers are typically living off post at the apartment complex they choose with roommates that they choose to live with or get to live by themselves if they so choose.
Officers can typically come and go as they please during the duty day as training cycles dictate. Enlisted soldiers are picking up trash, cutting grass, or some other bullshite post beautification project during red cycle details.
The politics that officers have to play aren't that big of a deal especially if you are single. These politics typically mean that you "have" to go to an after hours dinner once a month, get drinks with the CO on a Friday evening, have a standard breakfast meeting with your CO and LT buddies during SGT's time while the NCO's are training soldiers on various tasks. Real tough politics. The other politics is getting the good assignments that help further your career. No different than the politics that you deal with in your current civilian career.
Single enlisted guys will be stuck in the barracks rooming with the person they are told to room with and eating in the mess hall since your barracks room won't have a kitchen. You don't care for your roommate tough shite. Single officers are typically living off post at the apartment complex they choose with roommates that they choose to live with or get to live by themselves if they so choose.
Officers can typically come and go as they please during the duty day as training cycles dictate. Enlisted soldiers are picking up trash, cutting grass, or some other bullshite post beautification project during red cycle details.
The politics that officers have to play aren't that big of a deal especially if you are single. These politics typically mean that you "have" to go to an after hours dinner once a month, get drinks with the CO on a Friday evening, have a standard breakfast meeting with your CO and LT buddies during SGT's time while the NCO's are training soldiers on various tasks. Real tough politics. The other politics is getting the good assignments that help further your career. No different than the politics that you deal with in your current civilian career.
This post was edited on 7/29/17 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:36 pm to themasterpater
No problem brother. I enlisted in 2006 after finishing my bachelors degree. I was a mental health technician for a little over 4 years. I went to grad school while AD and commissioned as a clinical social worker.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:48 pm to themasterpater
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:00 am to FlyinTiger
I'd come meet you, but I live in VA. I clicked your links. What's the difference between TACP, CCT, and STO? I realize that STO is officer. But still, the don't see the spotlight like the rest of the SOF community, which I'm fine with, but there's also far less reading material on what these guys do.
Thank you in advance.
Thank you in advance.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:33 am to themasterpater
Tacp puts iron on targets
CCT is basically air traffic controllers in denies areas.
STO (special tactics officer) Special Tactics Officers help provide global access for coalition forces with assault zone assessment and control, fire support, personnel recovery/combat search and rescue, battlefield trauma care and tactical weather operations.
We have both enlisted and Officer opportunities.
If you can do 40 pickups 40 sit-ups 8 pull-ups and run about a 10:15 mile and a half, we can give you a look
There may be a unit close to you as well.
Good luck.
CCT is basically air traffic controllers in denies areas.
STO (special tactics officer) Special Tactics Officers help provide global access for coalition forces with assault zone assessment and control, fire support, personnel recovery/combat search and rescue, battlefield trauma care and tactical weather operations.
We have both enlisted and Officer opportunities.
If you can do 40 pickups 40 sit-ups 8 pull-ups and run about a 10:15 mile and a half, we can give you a look
There may be a unit close to you as well.
Good luck.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 8:53 am to FlyinTiger
Thanks man. Can you go straight from the civilian world to STO? And just a heads up, there's a good chance I ask you a ton of questions.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:41 pm to themasterpater
I'm more of a TACP guy
use the link and contact us through that method. We do have some folks who know more about the Ins and outs than me.
Don't just take a recruiters word for anything though.
use the link and contact us through that method. We do have some folks who know more about the Ins and outs than me.
Don't just take a recruiters word for anything though.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:42 pm to themasterpater
One last thing, understand that the old retirement system, 20 year pension, ends for anyone enlisting after Dec 31 of this year. If you enlist prior to that then you have the option to opt in to the retirement or keep the old one.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:02 pm to hottub
What's the difference? I just always thought it was 20 and pension. Is it a 401k now?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:09 pm to themasterpater
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I have a desk job now, would rather be on feet moving around every day, and doing something worth a frick like serving my country.
Oh and MAGA
First, congrats on wanting to serve, second don't enlist. What's your degree in?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:22 pm to themasterpater
I have a friend I went through AIT with who came in at 27 and we ended up in the same company after graduation. The company saw he was much more mature and ready for responsibility so he got a waiver to be promoted from PVT E-2 to E-3 PFC and they waived him for his promotion to E-4 and they skipped Spc. and went straight to Cpl. So in less than 2 years in the Army he was a Junior NCO and ended up as an E-6 Staff Sgt. within 4 1/2 years. If you have your shite together and are willing alot of times the older guys that come in will get fast tracked for promotion.
Now with that being said if you have a degree and you can go OCS or Warrant Officer do it... You will not do yourself any favors if you enlist when you could come in and become a Butter Bar or a CW1.
Now with that being said if you have a degree and you can go OCS or Warrant Officer do it... You will not do yourself any favors if you enlist when you could come in and become a Butter Bar or a CW1.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 5:15 pm to themasterpater
It is called the Blended Retirement System or BRS. I don't know all the details but it is no longer a guaranteed pension. I believe it is going to similar to the Federal Retirement System.
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