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re: UPDATE: Body found in Brian Laundrie search
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:16 pm to DaleGribble
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:16 pm to DaleGribble
Billionaire Boys Club does ring a bell , wasn't that a kidnapping then murder?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:17 pm to redaxe
Do we know if Alex Murdaugh has been to Utah recently?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:18 pm to LSUintheNW
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So, why the frick are you talking about him moving it if it was an OD? Makes little sense.
Because he left her there. If he was worried about this being pinned on him, do you not think that it's within the realm of possibilities that he would panic and try to hide her body?
Why are you ruling it out, when it has repeatedly been mentioned in this thread that he might not be acting rationally through all of this?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:22 pm to DaleGribble
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Ever heard of Joe Hunt
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:23 pm to DaleGribble
So the family gave him a head start. Why? He can't just disappear or can he? I'm getting deja vu like someone tried this in Florida not too long ago and of course was captured. Maybe he's gonna pull a Rambo
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:25 pm to redaxe
He doesn't seem like the smartest tool in the shed. I don't think he gets away from it. Big question I have is does the family get in trouble at the end of this?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:26 pm to redaxe
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Billionaire Boys Club does ring a bell , wasn't that a kidnapping then murder?
Yeah. They never found the body but they still got a conviction. It seems like it was because one of the other members that cut a deal. But that's one case where the prosecution was somehow able to get a conviction without a body.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:26 pm to cajunangelle
The cell phones and traffic cameras will break this case.
Pretty clear Brian sent the text from her phone to Gabby mom in 8/30. If it's determined he sent it while headed back to Florida, then that should be enough for them to bring him in for questioning.
Also, the van had to have passed thru numerous traffic cameras and toll toad cameras. Maybe one of them in Utah can verify the last day she was physically in the van and then captures him on the way back to Florida.
Pretty clear Brian sent the text from her phone to Gabby mom in 8/30. If it's determined he sent it while headed back to Florida, then that should be enough for them to bring him in for questioning.
Also, the van had to have passed thru numerous traffic cameras and toll toad cameras. Maybe one of them in Utah can verify the last day she was physically in the van and then captures him on the way back to Florida.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:28 pm to Greace
I always wondered. If he tells the lawyer I killed her, the lawyer gives him best advice on how to proceed to stay innocent, as his job, what happens to the lawyer? Are they a co-conspirator? Or no because they are doing what they are paid to do by representing their client as best as possible?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:28 pm to Indfanfromcol
A lawyer cannot help a client assist in an illegal act. Giving him advice isn't necessarily being an accomplice in a crime.
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:29 pm to Indfanfromcol
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If he tells the lawyer I killed her, the lawyer gives him best advice on how to proceed to stay innocent, as his job, what happens to the lawyer? Are they a co-conspirator? Or no because they are doing what they are paid to do by representing their client as best as possible?
You cannot knowingly encourage your client to commit illegal acts, or assist in furthering illegal activities.
ETA: Further clarification, telling him not to speak to the police without the lawyer present is perfectly fine legal advice. Saying dump the body and go hide in the woods is very unethical.
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:30 pm to redaxe
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So the family gave him a head start. Why?
it is unknown if he committed any crimes, so a head start from what?
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He can't just disappear or can he?
Can you? Are you wanted for anything? He is not. He is free to go wherever he feels like.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:31 pm to Rebel
quote:In jail or rehab
Do we know if Alex Murdaugh has been to Utah recently?
But Buster Murdaugh, where is he?
Mean while back at the van camper weirdos ranch...
(The title just changed to exclusive when I went back to grab the link)
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EXCLUSIVE: Rangers shut down Wyoming camp site where missing van-life girl Gabby Petito was last seen and are 'actively' searching the area - as cops 'fear for safety' of boyfriend Brian Laundrie and don't know if he is armed
Cops 'fear for safety' of Brian Laundrie and don't know if he is armed as they comb through 200-acres of Florida reserve - as search continues in Wyoming for missing van-life girlfriend Gabby Petito
Florida police and FBI officers hunt for the vanished boyfriend, Brian Laundrie, in the Carlton Reserves while Grand Teton National Park rangers are looking for the missing Gabby Petito in the Wyoming wilderness
The rangers and Petito's stepfather, Jim Schmidt, said they are confident Petito is in the area as the search began Friday
Northport Police and FBI began a search for the missing Laundrie on Saturday
Petito's mom Nichole Schmidt reacted angrily to the news that Brian Laundrie had vanished and suggested he is on the run
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:31 pm to HailToTheChiz
This is way off topic, but maybe relevant..
During his trial for the murder of Levin, Hunt's defense attorney presented two witnesses, Carmen Canchola and Jesus Lopez, who testified that they saw Levin after his alleged murder, in September 1986 at a gas station in Tucson, Arizona. Canchola and Lopez identified pictures of Levin from multiple photographic lineups as the same man they had seen at the gas station.[8] The jury was not persuaded by these sightings and found Hunt guilty in 1987.
On the basis of multiple witness statements that Levin had been seen alive, and claims of ineffective assistance of counsel[9] and judicial misconduct,[10] Hunt sought to have his murder conviction overturned and get a new trial.
He could use any of these tactics in court IF someone comes forward as a witness to murder.
During his trial for the murder of Levin, Hunt's defense attorney presented two witnesses, Carmen Canchola and Jesus Lopez, who testified that they saw Levin after his alleged murder, in September 1986 at a gas station in Tucson, Arizona. Canchola and Lopez identified pictures of Levin from multiple photographic lineups as the same man they had seen at the gas station.[8] The jury was not persuaded by these sightings and found Hunt guilty in 1987.
On the basis of multiple witness statements that Levin had been seen alive, and claims of ineffective assistance of counsel[9] and judicial misconduct,[10] Hunt sought to have his murder conviction overturned and get a new trial.
He could use any of these tactics in court IF someone comes forward as a witness to murder.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:34 pm to Hangit
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t is unknown if he committed any crimes, so a head start from what?
The family could know
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:34 pm to Greace
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Big question I have is does the family get in trouble at the end of this?
They can be charged as an accessory after the fact... if they knew he committed a crime and they helped harbor him or destroy evidence or aid in his escape.
Proving knowledge of the crime is the tricky part. I think you have to establish actual knowledge versus constructive knowledge. In other words it is not enough to say you should have known.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:34 pm to redaxe
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Hunt sought to have his murder conviction overturned and get a new trial
Was he successful though? A jury had the discretion to weigh the evidence.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:34 pm to HailToTheChiz
Thank you for the response. Genuinely curious. I’m sure that line is very grey. So I guess it stops at directing him to do more illegal things then.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:36 pm to captdalton
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That so many of the theories that are floating around are based upon “facts” that we have no proof of. Fact: He drove the van back to Florida and arrived on September 1st. Has anyone actually seen him or heard from him since then? Do we even know he was alive for the past two weeks? Fact: He drove back without her. Heck, we aren’t even sure he drove back. Could she have been with him, alive or dead? Did someone else drive back? Is it possible she drove back? Roger says someone was in her spotify account after she went missing. If so, who was it? What are they looking for in Florida? Him? Her? Live people or dead bodies? And is it because of some piece of evidence they found or just because he went missing?
Basically at this point it is nothing but questions and speculation. It this were a book we could just flip to the back and find out what happened. But I am not sure we will every know for sure exactly what happened. It is possible the only ones that do know are dead and took it to their grave. Or they could both be on some beach in Mexico laughing about all of it. Or it may be a glitch in the matrix.
First, a big “frick You” to all you assholes who have had me reading 30 pages (during a college football Saturday, no less) awaiting what I thought was the inevitable “update” that surely must have been posted to illicit so many responses. Bastards.
But I’m with the dude I quoted—we “know” almost nothing. I realized this as I was talking to my dad about this case this morning. And although Im still 99% sure she is dead due to homicide, suicide, or accident and he knows this, I found myself playing devil’s advocate and sort of defending this guy. It’s the Slo in me.
Remind me again why this was released? (This is not rhetorical, I literally can’t remember or never knew). Was it leaked or did the PD release it voluntarily? If so, why? Seems it would only make a later potential prosecution of him harder by showing him in a rather sympathetic light. So were they still hoping to find her and that maybe the video would compel someone to come forward somehow? I know it would have had to be released eventually, but this early seems to indicate some sort of motive, no? What do y’all think that was?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 2:38 pm to AUFANATL
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They can be charged as an accessory after the fact... if they knew he committed a crime and they helped harbor him or destroy evidence or aid in his escape.
Proving knowledge of the crime is the tricky part. I think you have to establish actual knowledge versus constructive knowledge. In other words it is not enough to say you should have known.
As long as there isn't any text messages showing they knew the police would need Brian to roll on his parents.
As far as we know, he's already dead.
I doubt he rolls on his parents.
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