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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:36 am to PearlJam
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:36 am to PearlJam
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1. While on the ground, he is reaching for a gun.
2. While on the ground, he is reaching for a knife.
3. While on the ground, he is attempting to pull the pin on a grenade.
none of that happened in this case...lets stick to what we know about this case
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:37 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:Would likely not be scared of guy 1, but would be very vigilant for guy 2
Even if you were approached by this guy?
Same as I wouldnt be scared for guy 1 here, but very vigilant for guy 2
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:37 am to ShreveportHog94
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Again, you weren't fricking there.
no but the coroners report coincides with what the witnesses are saying
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:38 am to TheCaterpillar
He didnt run far did he? It wasn’t like he went home and tried to act like it wasn’t him.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:38 am to lsupride87
Yeah it's the perfect crime. A 60 year old diabetic holds someone up in the lower Garden District. Ward, a stalwart of all that is good, disarms him until the victim has a concussion, and then two witnesses, who were in on it with the victim, all tell the same story. That's some The Wire level storytelling, with much less believability.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:39 am to tgrbaitn08
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none of that happened in this case...lets stick to what we know about this case
Multiple witnesses who corroborated their accounts with the multiple surveillance cameras = Yup none of those things happened in this case.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:40 am to crazy4lsu
quote:It doesnt seem that far fetched for me to believe multiple vagrants could be together causing trouble.....
Yeah it's the perfect crime. A 60 year old diabetic holds someone up in the lower Garden District. Ward, a stalwart of all that is good, disarms him until the victim has a concussion, and then two witnesses, who were in on it with the victim, all tell the same story. That's some The Wire level storytelling, with much less believability.
However, I do not think that was the case here
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:40 am to MrLSU
quote:When did this come out?
Multiple witnesses who corroborated their accounts with the multiple surveillance cameras
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:40 am to MrLSU
They confirmed video evidence?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:41 am to lsupride87
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Jackson tells Ward "Give me your money or I will shoot you"
wouldn't that have come out when he was arrested for battery 2 weeks ago?
quote:
Ward continues to kick jackson because he believes he has a gun.
Surely that would have been in the police report from when he was arrested for battery 2 weeks ago.....dont you think?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:41 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:They wouldnt put that in there if the officers didnt believe him correct?
Surely that would have been in the police report from when he was arrested for battery 2 weeks ago.....dont you think?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:42 am to lsupride87
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doesnt seem that far fetched for me to believe multiple vagrants could be together causing trouble.....
Yes a gang of vagrants setting up a regular everyman sounds like an every day occurrence. It's a tale as old as time.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:44 am to lsupride87
I'd probably have a beer with both of them 
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:44 am to crazy4lsu
Man this thread has gone to shite
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:45 am to MrLSU
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Multiple witnesses who corroborated their accounts with the multiple surveillance cameras = Yup none of those things happened in this case.
he reached for a gun and a grenade? I missed that part
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:46 am to crazy4lsu
quote:I wouldnt think the vagrants planned to have one murdered moron, I would say they planned to have the everyman give them his money.......
Yes a gang of vagrants setting up a regular everyman sounds like an every day occurrence. It's a tale as old as time.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:49 am to lsupride87
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They wouldnt put that in there if the officers didnt believe him correct?
Im sure Ward gave a statement when he was arrested for battery....if Red would have pulled a gun on him, Ward would have written that in his statement and it would have been included in the police report
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:50 am to lsupride87
Given how unlikely that situation is, sure. But I don't think that's what happened here, you don't think that's what has happened here, but you apparently think that's a possible cogent defense for Wards behavior. Believe what you like bub.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:51 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:Have we seen that police report (serious question)?
Im sure Ward gave a statement when he was arrested for battery....if Red would have pulled a gun on him, Ward would have written that in his statement and it would have been included in the police report
We have only seen that arrest warrant as far as I know
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:51 am to TheCaterpillar
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He was probably piss arse drunk, in a foul mood, and Jackson and him had words about something that set him off and it turned tragic.
This is my best guess.
I can walk from my front door to the scene of the crime in about 45 seconds. There's a crew of older guys who hang out on the sidewalk from in front of the Red Zone store to the corner of St. Andrew pretty regularly between noon and 2 a.m. They'll do standard stuff like block the sidewalk with their bikes so pedestrians have to stop, then ask them for money. I've never seen any of these guys get physical with passers-by, but they make it difficult to get by and get very testy when people refuse to give them money--"f you whitey", really vulgar comments to women, spitting at people, etc.
I've never really felt threatened by any of this crew, nor do I specifically recognize Jackson as ever hanging around them--just trying to offer some context. But I can easily see a very drunk guy going off the rails when someone spits at him. That certainly wouldn't justify kicking Jackson in the head once he was on the ground though.
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