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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder

Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:45 am to
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:45 am to
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Unlike many cases in Orleans, you're simply (likely) risking the punishment, not more loss of life if the defendant gets out and goes right back to drug rips.


So the prosecution is more likely to push it to trial than allow a lenient plea, because there is little risk this guy will kill again if they lose at trial and he walks. Right?

It’s interesting that the more violent killer is more likely to get a better deal. I’m not knocking a prosecutor’s call here. I just never thought about it that way.

Posted by fishfighter
RIP
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:58 am to
Well, did he turn himself in?
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41216 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:17 am to
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Garrett Ward allegedly beat up a 60 year old man and kicked him in the head multiple times when he was already on the ground. Ward was arrested and bonded out. Old man died from those injuries 2 weeks later. Police now looking for Ward to re-arrest him on 2nd degree murder charges. Couple posters who are friends with Ward are in thread knighting for him. Other posters calling him a "good boy who didn't do anything" or tPOS, etc. OT lawyers arguing over whether murder charges justified or not. Someones salad is getting tossed in the pen.
Sums it up pretty nicely. Thread is worth a read for the white knighting and irony alone.
Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:22 am to
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Holy shite, y'all.

Can a brother get some cliffs on page 50 please?


I read all 47 pages last night. THIS one is worth the read.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:24 am to
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And the optics look bad


Current most hated buzzword.
Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:28 am to
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It’s interesting that the more violent killer is more likely to get a better deal. I’m not knocking a prosecutor’s call here. I just never thought about it that way.


The system is messed up.

Imagine the person who feels remorse and says, "I don't need a defense attorney. I did it. Save the taxpayers " etc. The judge and DA will max that person out instead of being logical and making a deal for them.

In the criminal justice system, you get punished worse for doing the right thing.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10661 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:08 am to
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His best hope is to hire someone like Desalvo or Billy Gibbens now, get them talking to Leon, and try to get a manslaughter and 20-25.



misread your post
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 6:16 am
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:10 am to
You can pay for a background check from the state police. Not an easy way to run one from home or anything.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:12 am to
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Ralph Whalen,

He may have his hands full with the OT's favorite DWI offender. Whatever her name is that killed the person on the causeway
Posted by chesty
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Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:14 am to
frick garret. He’s a fricking trash, always has been always will be
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:25 am to
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So the prosecution is more likely to push it to trial than allow a lenient plea, because there is little risk this guy will kill again if they lose at trial and he walks. Right? 

It’s interesting that the more violent killer is more likely to get a better deal. I’m not knocking a prosecutor’s call here. I just never thought about it that way. 



It's not really a thought process like that, but anyone's biggest nightmare is to let someone out who ends up killing a 3 year old in a drive by. So risk of loss and keeping more serious threats off the street for the longest guaranteed period is certainly something in the back of your mind when asking for the DA to approve any deal you have in mind.

There are cases where you'll be going to trial with your only witness being brought in by prison guards while wearing orange, or where your witness takes the stand and begins saying they never saw the defendant and are pretty sure it was someone else and you spend the day impeaching your own witness. Those cases are certainly winnable and are tried every day, but you're still aware of the risk he rolls out tomorrow if you lose.

But remember, it's not like they're saying "the easy ones, we'll go after life." Life is the default, that's what he's getting if I convict. If I'm pleading it, the majority of the time it's because the family doesn't want to have to sit through a trial, and those are typically pled with manslaughter and 40.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:31 am to
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He’s a fricking trash, always has been always will be



Not according to his friends in this thread
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42289 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:41 am to
Garret looks like he would be Pecker. No more wild animal threads baw
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:44 am to
he went to the hospital for clearance and they said there no scratches on him?

If you beat a man to death, I would think there would have been blood on you somewhere or swelling’scratches to his knuckles.
Posted by tigersfirst
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
1064 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:48 am to
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Well, did he turn himself in?


If he has turned himself in, it wasn't to the NOPD or the Orleans Sheriff. He is not currently in the custody of the Sheriff.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:49 am to
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Sums it up pretty nicely. Thread is worth a read for the white knighting and irony alone.


If it had been just some random baw then he would had been named a unanimous tPOS and deserved to toss salad for the rest of his life.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:50 am to
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Imagine the person who feels remorse and says, "I don't need a defense attorney. I did it. Save the taxpayers " etc. The judge and DA will max that person out instead of being logical and making a deal for them. 



This isn't true. I've seen people shouting at the public defender at their first court appearance that they want to plead guilty to a murder. The judge isn't going to allow that, won't allow you to do anything without an attorney, and everyone just assumes he's crazy and he's set for a mental competency hearing.

That aside, except in the rarest of circumstances, anyone can get a reduction via a plea. An attorney just has to sit down and ask and be reasonable. There have been situations here where after the conviction for murder or rape, meaning he'll get mandatory life at sentencing, the state has agreed to set the conviction aside and allow him to plead to a number he was offered before trial, or they may add 5-10 to that number.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66102 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:05 am to
His friends are trash too.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41216 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:07 am to
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frick garret. He’s a fricking trash, always has been always will be
Hmm, I heard he was a good guy.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
5069 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:13 am to
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Why is it always about money? Some of y'all watch way too much Law and Order or bad cop shows. It's about facts and the circumstances as to why this happened and how we got here. He kicked a guy during fight and that's pretty much as far as we got. This guy wasn't out auditioning for the newest season of Bum Fights so something happend to cause this. We will find out in time


Go watch The Jinx on HBO. Robert Durst murdered and DISMEMBERED someone in TEXAS and his brilliant lawyers whom he paid like $2M for got him off.

Representation is everything.


This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 7:14 am
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