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re: UPDATE 265 Class Liftboat capsizes . New survivor story. Page 77

Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:26 am to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:26 am to
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Would anyone have been sleeping already?



If you're working 6 hour watches.....yes
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9860 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:31 am to
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Would anyone have been sleeping already?


If I was on there, I would have been passed smooth out. Wake me when we get there. Good possibility some were.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23304 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:42 am to
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There's a reason their called seamen or mariners.

You want to know how they prepare for bad weather? The cook makes pizza or hotdogs. The crew latches the steel doors on the outside and everyone chills out. If it's really bad nobody is allowed on deck. That's pretty much it. This thing flipped over quick. If happened slowly, the alarm would have sounded, everyone would have grabbed a PFD and been floating around the outside of the ship.


Yes I get that. But again, these boats weren’t built for seas so why would that be the case here? If they were lifted or another boat built for severe weather, then I get that. But this boat should have never been out there that day, so to me there’s some sort of readiness state in between sleeping and throwing a life jacket on and jumping overboard.

The potential issue with the missing guys is that many may have been asleep not paying attention to the weather. If they were awake and paying attention at the ready, it’s more likely they survive.

I get not doing this all the time or in every bad seas. But this was worse than that, obviously. It’s not like this was some fluke wave or wind gust out of nowhere. 75 mph winds or more. I just don’t understand why it wasn’t a situation where everyone gets up, gathers somewhere to prepare to abandon ship, and watch tv or play cards until the weather is better. I’m just surprised they don’t have additional states of readiness is all.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:44 am to
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If you're working 6 hour watches.....yes


Gotcha.

I’ll be honest, I’m not sure why y’all are giving baldona so much shite here. If this truly surprised the crew, someone fricked up. The severe storms were pretty well telegraphed all day and heading that way. The special Marine warning was up as well. Leaving Fourchon at all is one thing, but to say the weather surprised anyone when they got out there means either the internal mets weren’t paying attention, the captain was ignoring them, or some combination of the two.

This wasn’t some pop up summer storm.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:45 am to
Because when you're off, you're off. Three hours into my off time, I'm freaking sleeping. I expect to be woken up if they need me for an emergency.

You would be surprised at the stuff you can sleep through when you live on a boat.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24401 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:45 am to
quote:

This wasn’t some pop up summer storm.


I think it was more of pop up storm in a tolerable line of storms.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:46 am to
You are correct. I think him throwing out the I worked on a charter boat line was the kicker.

Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:50 am to
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baldona


please stop
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:54 am to
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quote:
Meauxjeaux


You might want to learn some reading comprehension.

ETA: To be fair he should have just wrote "experienced" vs "not inexperienced."


While I did not read the double negative, he contradicts himself saying he has experience and weather cannot turn terrible in a few minutes.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9860 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:55 am to
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Completely understand. Thanks for explaining, just wasn't sure what kind of motion they were feeling in the cabin.


Think of the walls around you as steel and it's vibrating because the floor/hull is getting pounded by the waves and you're rocking irregularly because this isn't ground swells. It's choppy waves hitting the sides of the boat at different directions. If your sitting down your whole body will feel every wave crashing because your spine is the shock absorber. It's why I always went lay in my bunk and sleep. That and we just finished loading the boat or set equipment on it etc. I was tired and it passes the time to sleep.

You're on the second level so your center of gravity is below you. You'll feel alot more sway the higher you get. The captain will be rocking the most. In that weather he might have been standing instead of swaying in his chair because shits moving around up there, sliding back and forth etc. I can't explain it any better. You'd have to experience it.

This was a freak accident though. There's tons of equipment welded to the deck. The boat is top heavy to begin with and it only took the perfect wave to flip it over because that boat has been in the same conditions before.

Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
4010 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:57 am to
any updates on the search, i heard divers were going in at 5am this morning.

I heard another rumor that there were two men in a life raft underwater that were still alive??

anybody have any credible update?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:00 am to
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This wasn’t some pop up summer storm.



I heard or read the term micro burst....or some other terminology that described the event as it did pop up as more intense than foretasted.

I dont think 75-80 mph was foretasted, and 100 mph wind on Grand Isle...maybe it was
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:07 am to
Posted by tigerfanatic61
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
151 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:08 am to
I believe 30 knot gusts and 3-5' seas were the forecast around departure. A rough but somewhat normal day in paradise.
Posted by RaginCajun87
Member since Jul 2013
353 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:11 am to
Where do you see guys hanging on?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:12 am to
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Where do you see guys hanging on?



Maybe Im seeing things but It looks like someone holding on to the corner where the waves are crashing.....maybe I'm seeing things

look at the center of the video in the green box
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 11:14 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104168 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:44 am to
Has the story on the CG tefusing to go out been confirmed or debunked?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:47 am to
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I heard or read the term micro burst....or some other terminology that described the event as it did pop up as more intense than foretasted.

I dont think 75-80 mph was foretasted, and 100 mph wind on Grand Isle...maybe it was


It ended up worse than forecasted, but the high end potential was always there. This was the short term forecast from 11am right before they left. It shows the gust forecast for the hour between 4-5pm Central.



Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:00 pm to
Can you post what the real time loop looked like from 1200 to 1600?

I'd like to see what the capt saw at 1400 when he decided to nose out of the pass then decided to keep heading south
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