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Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:44 am to baldona
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Care to explain the difference in being 25 miles offshore in a 45 ft fishing boat or a 45 ft O&G boat when the weather turns to shite?
For one a fishing boat can outrun or out maneuver a storm.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:46 am to baldona
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Care to explain the difference in being 25 miles offshore in a 45 ft fishing boat or a 45 ft O&G boat when the weather turns to shite?
There’s other industries outside of O&G that spend time off shore
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:46 am to baldona
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45 ft O&G boat
Do you even know that is?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:46 am to greenwave
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Probably a dumb question but, would they not feel the rocking and be like well these waves seem bigger than normal? Just trying to grasp the situation. Not sure what you actually "feel" out there.
Everyone on that boat probably at one time or another felt those seas before. You just don't worry about it. It's just another day at work unless you're the green hat that's never been there before. Its uncomfortable in those conditions but I just laid in my bunk and went to sleep.
Reality is this. Let's say the captain sounds the alarm. Which door are you running out of? Port or starboard? Let's say you are going up the stairs on the outside and this thing flips over on you. You're still fricked and climbing the stairs in rough conditions aren't easy. You can't predict this stuff man. The only prevention was not leaving the port.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:48 am to TDTOM
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Care to explain the difference in being 25 miles offshore in a 45 ft fishing boat or a 45 ft O&G boat when the weather turns to shite?
Samesies
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:48 am to tgrbaitn08
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Do you even know that is?
It's pretty obvious he hasn't seen a picture of this vessel
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:51 am to LNCHBOX
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It's pretty obvious he hasn't seen a picture of this vessel
I want him to show me what a 45' O&G boat is that works 25 miles offshore
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:55 am to baldona
Just stop bro. You can’t speak on something you’re clueless about
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:57 am to baldona
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Yes I’m well aware. Just because they weren’t involved doesn’t mean they were sleeping in their bunks though. Is it not fair to say they were likely at some point of being alert?
They were in calm waters in the pass and probably turned extremely quickly when they exited the pass, which is right where the vessel went down, right out of the pass (jetties)
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:57 am to saintsfan1977
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Reality is this. Let's say the captain sounds the alarm. Which door are you running out of? Port or starboard? Let's say you are going up the stairs on the outside and this thing flips over on you. You're still fricked and climbing the stairs in rough conditions aren't easy. You can't predict this stuff man. The only prevention was not leaving the port.
This is what I was trying to get someone to say, so thank you.
Basically until the boat is taking on water or otherwise likely going to sink then the crew outside of the wheelhouse on duty almost never prepare for bad weather and rough seas? There’s not really any sort of stages of emergency?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:02 am to LSUfanNkaty
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Samesies
Those pics sum it up pretty well that jack up is in slick calm waters and still splashing over the deck!!!
I was talking with my dad today, me an him have been in and on oil and gas commercial boats and shrimp boats our whole lives. When that weather blew up on their starboard side since they were heading to MP from FOU there’s a good chance they were not even able to turn head sea into it and blew over trying to.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:03 am to hubertcumberdale
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They were in calm waters in the pass and probably turned extremely quickly when they exited the pass, which is right where the vessel went down, right out of the pass (jetties)
and if you've ever gone out of that pass in either a work boat or fishing boat....that pass gets choppy as frick even on a calm day
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:05 am to Ol boy
I’m assuming the reason these boats are so flat bottomed (and therefore unstable in strong seas) is because they use the barge portion to ballast?
In other words is there a reason these aren’t built with a V hull and taller freeboard?
In other words is there a reason these aren’t built with a V hull and taller freeboard?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:09 am to saintsfan1977
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You can't predict this stuff man. The only prevention was not leaving the port.
Completely understand. Thanks for explaining, just wasn't sure what kind of motion they were feeling in the cabin.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:10 am to tgrbaitn08
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They left the dock at 12pm...that is when the second watch comes on.....the boat flipped at 1540....the off watch guys could have been taking showers, eating, going get a nap....the cook and galley hands may or may not have been sleeping or cleaning up after lunch. The crane operator was def watching TV or sleeping...the engineers/oilier could have been down in the engine room... Second mate was probably in the wheel house with the capt.....deck hands were beating off in the lounge probably watching porn
Ah, liftboat life.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:16 am to jamboybarry
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I’m assuming the reason these boats are so flat bottomed (and therefore unstable in strong seas) is because they use the barge portion to ballast? In other words is there a reason these aren’t built with a V hull and taller freeboard?
Someone with a naval engineering background may be able to chime in on design restrictions.
But these boats are built as wide temporary work platforms that have to have the legs spread wide for stability when in position first and underway secondary. They typically end up jacking up and only moving in favorable conditions, sometimes going days and even weeks during the winter without jacking down.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:25 am to tgrbaitn08
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If the capt didnt sound the general alarm how would the guys off watch sleeping know that shite was going down?
Would anyone have been sleeping already?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 10:26 am to baldona
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Basically until the boat is taking on water or otherwise likely going to sink then the crew outside of the wheelhouse on duty almost never prepare for bad weather and rough seas? There’s not really any sort of stages of emergency?
There's a reason their called seamen or mariners.
You want to know how they prepare for bad weather? The cook makes pizza or hotdogs. The crew latches the steel doors on the outside and everyone chills out. If it's really bad nobody is allowed on deck. That's pretty much it. This thing flipped over quick. If happened slowly, the alarm would have sounded, everyone would have grabbed a PFD and been floating around the outside of the ship.
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