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re: Update - Body Identified - Autistic 6 Y/O missing

Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:54 pm to
Father did it
Posted by loopback
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Some of them could sign and some couldn't.


And how many responded to being called by name? How many could be "shouted back" like the other poster claimed?

My point is not whether autistic kids can sign, I'm sure those high on the spectrum can learn it.

My point was simple, there is a very high chance that a non-verbal autistic 6 year old would not respond to being "shouted back" in the instance that he ran too far away from the father and that the father (having raised a non-verbal autistic child) should have known better than to let him out of sight. The other guy argued that when his daughter gets away from him simply shouts her back. My argument is that with autistic children, that is almost never effective, and you cannot compare "shouting back" a normal child to an autistic one.

ETA: you are the one who got all snarky and accused me of claiming I was an expert.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted by S1C EM
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:16 pm to
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I mean really, just how far would a 6yr old autistic kid get? Was some kidnapper just waiting there for a nonverbal kid to come along?


This is the problem I have with this. The child didn't outrun this guy on the path. If there was no abductor, it leaves two options: Run into the lake and run the other direction into the woods. On top of that, the park was supposedly full of people when this happened. How did no one see anything???

This story is really sad. I don't want to cast blame on the dad, but I can't help but be suspicious of his involvement.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Sinister1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:18 pm to
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You clearly don't have experience with non-verbal autistic kids, there is no such thing as "shouting them back" They do not respond to verbal commands, hence "non-verbal" 


That's not always the case. My son is non-verbal, autistic and turns 6 in a week. The only non-verbal part about it is he can't talk. He listens to commands and is on a normal mental level for his age. He uses an iPad to "talk". That being said, no way in hell am I letting him wander off away from me. My biggest fear is him getting lost without his device and not being able to tell anyone who he is.
Posted by Big Balls
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:23 pm to
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That's not always the case. My son is non-verbal, autistic and turns 6 in a week. The only non-verbal part about it is he can't talk. He listens to commands and is on a normal mental level for his age. He uses an iPad to "talk". That being said, no way in hell am I letting him wander off away from me. My biggest fear is him getting lost without his device and not being able to tell anyone who he is.



Nope...Sinister, you are wrong. Loopback said..

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You clearly don't have experience with non-verbal autistic kids, there is no such thing as "shouting them back" They do not respond to verbal commands, hence "non-verbal"


I am done with this. Its now obvious to everyone you generalized a disability based on your experience with one child. I never called you out or called you stupid or anything of the sort. I was just trying to educate you, and anybody else reading, before I have to "go back to my cave".
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:37 pm to
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"go back to my cave".



Yes....please do. You big bad expert you.


ETA: before you go:
quote:

Its now obvious to everyone you generalized a disability based on your experience with one child


This is completely wrong and your butthurt is showing.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:57 pm to
There is just something not adding up about this story.

They just played his 911 call on the news. There was no fear in his voice. Sounded like he was ordering a pizza.

They said he was at the park with a female friend but not releasing who she is.

I hope they find the kid and I hope it is just the kid running off, hiding in the woods.

But I just have a feeling the father and his girlfriend did something to that baby. They may not even been
In the park.

I hope I'm wrong
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:07 pm to
A very strange story. Very strange. The mom sounds heartbroken.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:08 pm to
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Ian says he "started panicking" when his 6-year-old son did not slow down and disappeared from view.


Maybe he should’ve tried to stay closer.

I bet the dad did it.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 6:09 pm
Posted by LSUJML
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:50 pm to
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This is the problem I have with this. The child didn't outrun this guy on the path


Tonight on the national news they said the Dad has a medical condition which makes him unable to run

ABC

quote:

"I feel guilt for letting him get so far ahead of me," Ritch told reporters. Ritch said he has diabetes and neuropathy in his feet which can cause problems running.

quote:

Investigators have checked dozens of dumpsters, searched the park's lake using sonar and divers and scanned the area with helicopters and drones, police said.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 6:51 pm
Posted by HoustonChick86
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:57 pm to
Did the person with him have the same condition?!?
Posted by lake2280
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:19 pm to
Rule kidnapping out no reason to kidnap a kid with severe autism. Hell I wouldn’t.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 3:31 am to
quote:

Tonight on the national news they said the Dad has a medical condition which makes him unable to run


This was conveniently added to the story yesterday. The child has been missing for what, 5 days? He didn't bring this up until people began criticizing his inability to keep up with a 6 year-old. And what about the WOMAN with him? I've seen her now described as his "girlfriend" in one report, yet she isn't the mother. Doesn't add up.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 9/27/18 at 3:40 am to
I’m jumping to conclusions but I wish there was a vigilante out there for these type of situations.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 9/27/18 at 5:36 am to
Interesting thought process continues for the father.

quote:

Father of missing North Carolina boy: ‘I know I’m the number one suspect


Suspiciousness.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 9/27/18 at 6:36 am to
quote:

he was at the park with a female friend


:wellthereitisjeffgoldbloomjurassicparkgif:
Posted by DBama1
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2009
1269 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:55 pm to
I think they found him dead in a creek....
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