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re: United's dragged passenger hires high-powered Chicago personal injury lawyer

Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:25 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:25 am to


You edited it after I pointed it out. I even posted the entire message for you.

It's weird to deny it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:26 am to
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If you tell a police officer "no" after him asking to search your house without a warrant, are you being unruly?




Not this stupid point again....
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10665 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:29 am to
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Link one of them. Just one.


150+ posts. Link yourself.

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Weak.


You can't even handle the weak stuff. You don't deserve anything more.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:32 am to
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You edited it after I pointed it out. I even posted the entire message for you.


I copied the same link back into the first one (that worked the first time) to make sure it was working (again). It did then, and it does now.

Like I said, it's precious you think me being shady is the only way to get a broken link.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 9:35 am
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:36 am to
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If you tell a police officer "no" after him asking to search your house without a warrant, are you being unruly?

Searching my house without a warrant is illegal

Removing me from the house WHEN THEY HAVE A WARRANT, and I wont let them in, is legal

They had the legal right to remove the unruly passenger
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24462 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:36 am to
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If United calls security to have someone removed from a flight, they did it whether it was them physically doing it or not.




That isn't how it works.


The police were following United direction, it was a civil matter and United was saying he was breaking their contract. If the guy was simply sitting in his seat, he was doing absolutely nothing against the airport law. He was just not following Uniteds orders. He had a ticket and was in his seat, please explain what law was being broken?

Therefore, if United was wrong in asking him to leave this is almost all on United. The only way the police are in trouble is if they used improper technique to remove him and if their protocol should of been to walk away instead of removing him.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:39 am to
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Searching my house without a warrant is illegal


So would demanding a passenger to leave who has a legal right to be there, no?

In your opinion, what did this passenger do to be unruly?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:00 am to
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It did then, and it does now.


I copied the message. You edited it because it didn't work.

Denying it is still weird.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:07 am to
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But why did the leg need a crew?


This is important, I need to know why.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:09 am to
this lawyer seems like the ultimate ambulance chaser


I know United is in the wrong, but my God lawyers are the scummiest group of people on the face of the earth
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34758 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:17 am to
So United needed those seats for their employees to get to work the next morning...Irony at it's best...
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:25 am to
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this lawyer seems like the ultimate ambulance chaser


Watching and I think the opposite, respectfully. His presentation isn't over the top, IMO. He's used pretty plain and succinct language throughout. That firm is going to rip an a-hole into both United and City of Chicago it sounds like. You can tell his team doesn't play.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34758 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:29 am to
That lawyer just won the lawsuit lottery...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:33 am to
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The man was clearly being unruly. UA had established rules and policies, and after being informed of them, the man refused to comply. Police were then called.

You think he was removed from the plane for being unruly?

Why was he being unruly?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:34 am to

Daughter is pretty cute, too. Well-educated and likely well off family by appearances. That could be their lead in court as well. They don't need the money but will gladly be the new face of airline passenger respect and safety. I'd take a concussion and two missing teeth for the opp
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:34 am to
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They had the legal right to remove the unruly passenger

We don't know this.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11628 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:48 am to
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We don't know this.


We also don't know they were not. United thought they were within the rights set-forth in their code of carriage to deny the passenger entry on the final manifest. The argument is simply when a flight is determined to be oversold. If it is when the decision is made then United was within the rights of their agreement. If it is when the system information has been input and all staff notified then they did not have authority to assess involuntary denial of passage. Lodging + meals or rental car, in addition to $1k cash per seat and full refund of ticket or exchange plus upgrade and they would have saved a pretty penny here. May have even had more than 4 people volunteer. Would have to think moving forward all airlines will up the ante to garner volunteers. In the end this is a good thing for air travelers moving forward.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:53 am to
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We also don't know they were not. United thought they were within the rights set-forth in their code of carriage to deny the passenger entry on the final manifest.


They also said it wasnt oversold after the fact... But as some pointed out that could be to try and blow this over.

My question is if the Dr wants to really be a pain in the arse and bring this to court (he won't) that statement will bite UA in the arse.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11628 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:56 am to
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They also said it wasnt oversold after the fact... But as some pointed out that could be to try and blow this over.

My question is if the Dr wants to really be a pain in the arse and bring this to court (he won't) that statement will bite UA in the arse.


Did they? We had a back and forth yesterday because you kept posting the same quote which was "overbooked" and I tried for a couple of pages to explain the difference to you and why United chose the verbiage.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:58 am to
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We also don't know they were not
Correct, which is what I've said for 3 days now. I've never said we know with 100% certainty, I'm calling out others for acting like they do.

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The argument is simply when a flight is determined to be oversold
This is correct, though UA has told us it was not oversold.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 10:59 am
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