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re: United's dragged passenger hires high-powered Chicago personal injury lawyer
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:11 am to teke184
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:11 am to teke184
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That is from an eyewitness account posted on Reddit from one of the other 60-someodd passengers who made the flight.
I love it, offered a completely reasonable way to de-escalate a situation, turn it down and deal with the consequences.
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:11 am to shel311
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I've never argued the manner in which they removed,
That's what society appears to be collectively melting down about. It makes good tv.
But everyone knows about overbooking. Why do people care now? Because some little dipshit cries like a 4 year old.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:12 am to johnnyrocket
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Their is better ways probably within dept policy to get this guy off the plane.
These guys let their frustrations get the best of them and basically went outside guidelines causing injury to this person.
Or the passenger let his frustrations get the better of him. Because he wouldn't leave his seat he forced security to carry him off the plane and the passenger received a bump on his head.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:12 am to AwesomeSauce
quote:Umm, there are attorneys saying they actually dont have that right.
United has that right, I don't agree with them using it, but they do in fact have that right.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:13 am to teke184
quote:Right. I never said it doesn't, I just want to see where the contract says that it does.
hey claim "must-fly" trumps paying passengers.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:13 am to Choupique19
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Because he wouldn't leave his seat he forced security to carry him off the plane and the passenger received a bump on his head.
If a police officer asks you for your car keys and wallet and to sign the title over to him, do you comply?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:13 am to GEAUXT
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Their flight wasn't until the next morning. There are a million ways they could have gotten them to Louisville.
Then nevermind, if true, I am out. Indefensible. Speaks to a United culture of treatment of passengers where WE are thought of as subhuman. That guy caught the wrong staff on the wrong day. United will have to pay.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:14 am to Choupique19
quote:So, even if United illegally broke contract, it is still the guys fault for possibly following said contract?
Or the passenger let his frustrations get the better of him. Because he wouldn't leave his seat he forced security to carry him off the plane and the passenger received a bump on his head.
Some people are so easily manipulated by authority and power
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:14 am to shel311
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Actually, that answer is no.
Semantics over whether it was overbooked or oversold, but yes the additional staff/crew pushed the available seaqt number down. We can argue semantics, but once UA decided to include the extra crew on the flight there were only 66 available seats.
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That's up for debate, unless you can point to which part of the contract allowed them to remove passengers.
Boarding was not complete as the final manifest was not complete. Until the manifest is complete boarding can be denied whether at the gate or on the aircraft.
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Not necessarily, no.
The code of carriage was agreed to, whether he chose to read it or not he agreed to it.
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The flight was full, not overbooked.
Semantics. Overbooked implies 70 seats 70+ boarding passes. Full means 70/70, but once the staff was manifested it was 70/66. UA did not overbook, but they did reduce the number of available seats on a full plane.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:14 am to Lou Pai
quote:The blood definitely helps!!!
That's what society appears to be collectively melting down about. It makes good tv.
quote:This was not an overbooking situation, THAT is the issue at hand.
But everyone knows about overbooking. Why do people care now?
If if were, I would being saying, Yep that dude had nor right to his seat based on the contract he agreed to.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:15 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:Of course. Every police officer and security worker has the right to ask you to do something. Once you say no, they then have the right to force you to do it.
If a police officer asks you for your car keys and wallet and to sign the title over to him, do you comply?
I swear to god there are people in here making that argument
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:15 am to GEAUXT
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Their flight wasn't until the next morning. There are a million ways they could have gotten them to Louisville.
Probably could have rented are car honestly... its only a 4.5 hour drive.
also i just saw an article that said this
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The man who ended up bloodied and screaming Sunday night had initially agreed to get off the plane, passenger Jayse Anspach said. "Him and his wife, they volunteered initially," Anspach said. "But once they found out that the next flight wasn't until (Monday) at 2:30 p.m., he said, 'I can't do that. I gotta be at work.' So he sat back down."
The harder the officers tried to get the man to leave, the harder the man insisted he stay. "He was very emphatic: 'I can't be late. I'm a doctor. I've got to be there tomorrow,' " Anspach recalled. His pleas didn't work.
Moments later, the man was getting dragged down the aisle. At one point, passengers say, the man hits his head on an armrest. Video shows blood starts streaming from his mouth.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:16 am to AwesomeSauce
quote:The code of carriage possibly says he actually did have the right to stay in his seat
The code of carriage was agreed to,
Why cant you comprehend that?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:16 am to AwesomeSauce
quote:That's not semantics, that's quite literally the crux of the entire deal here.
Semantics over whether it was overbooked or oversold
quote:This is correct, and...
We can argue semantics, but once UA decided to include the extra crew on the flight there were only 66 available seats.
1. This is not an overbooking situation
2. I've seen nothing that states UA is allowed to do this. Expert lawyers in this field have argued that they very well may not have had any authority to make that decision.
quote:Which part of the contract gave UA the right to remove him?
The code of carriage was agreed to, whether he chose to read it or not he agreed to it.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:17 am to AwesomeSauce
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Semantics. Overbooked implies 70 seats 70+ boarding passes. Full means 70/70, but once the staff was manifested it was 70/66. UA did not overbook, but they did reduce the number of available seats on a full plane.
Call United's CEO and tell him that he is mistaken about the flight being overbooked.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:17 am to lsupride87
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swear to god there are people in here making that argument
It's scary when they see asserting your rights as resistance.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:18 am to shel311
I'm not sure I understand your post. Of course United has the right to toss him. We can safely assume they have that in the fine print. I don't like the idea of ovderbooking, but that's not what the uproar is about.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:18 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Correct me if wrong, but these aren't vacationing United staff who are flyiing standby and bumping people. These are crew that are needed elsewhere. Delaying them causes a domino effect that touches hundreds of people on multiple flights.
If it was that important United could have placed a call to any of the many air charter operations available at O'Hare had the crew picked up and flown to there destination for a few thousand dollars.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:19 am to lsupride87
Link?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 10:19 am to Lou Pai
quote:Except attorneys are saying it actually isnt in the fine print
Of course United has the right to toss him. We can safely assume they have that in the fine print.
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